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Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by scholia »

Morphling wrote: post #223
colin_jack wrote: post #10

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Its been my recent experience too, I keep a lot of tabs open and began to notice Chrome was filling up my memory. Very strange that Google let the situation get so bad. Mind you I find the Chrome developer tools far more powerful and intuitive than those in Firefox which stops me moving entirely.

I hear quite a few people talking how they have 30-50 tabs open, how do people manage something like that? And why would anyone need so many simultaneous tabs open?

The problem is that you're doing something that uses lots of tabs, and with luck you remember to close them down. Still, at the end of the day, you may have an extra five tabs open, and that's 100 a month. After a few months you have 500 tabs.

So then you devote a couple of hours to going through and closing tabs, and find you still have 300...

The solution, if anyone ever gets this far down the page, is to use Session Manager to save the tabs, close Firefox, and then just uncheck the boxes for the tabs you don't ever want to reload.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by MBlume »

Can I just take a moment to say that this is all a success story? Firefox was old and busted, slow and unstable, Chrome was the new hotness, now Chrome is starting to get long in the tooth, but in that time Firefox has been spurred on to get leaner and faster and more capable. Chrome did exactly what Google told us it was supposed to do when it was released -- it spurred competition and pushed the Mozilla devs to put out the best browser they could. As more people switch to Firefox, that same pressure will fall on the Chrome team. At the end of the day, we're all better off, and I'd like to thank the folks at Mozilla, at Google, and yes, even at Microsoft for all they've done.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by decasteve »

morenoh149 wrote: post #398
MichaelGG wrote: post #380

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I tried that. DDG just wasn't even remotely good enough to service my searching habits. Instead, I've switched to Disconnect search. They proxy searches and claim to do so anonymously. So at least I'm not directly contributing to Google's profile building that way. It does add a second or two latency per search, which can be annoying. FF switched to Yahoo, and I'm just amused at how bad it is. They even open results…

I use Duckduckgo optimistically. First I use ddg then if the results aren't satisfactory I use google.

The nice thing about DuckDuckGo is that you can just put !sp in front of your search and it will send the search to StartPage.com (for google results).

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by wooger »

spoiler wrote: post #505
jacobolus wrote: post #482

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Worth the performance trade-off for who? For my own use cases, Chrome drags my whole system performance into a gutter and shoots it full of bullets. In other words, it’s not just a “trade-off”, but rather Chrome is completely and utterly unusable, while both Safari and Firefox handle the load with no problem.

I actually have more problems with Firefox's performance than with Chrome's (in terms of processor power), Chrome definitely uses more memory, but it's super fast; firefox is just abysmally slow and can;t handle more than a few tabs. Tried both browsers on Windows 8.1 and Linux, with different machines (home and work computers), too. However, my high memory consumption in Chrome was due to using AdBlock, which is muc…

uBlock is now available on Firefox too, and makes an even more dramatic difference in performance.

I really don't know what you're talking about - Chrome is a dog after ~10 tabs are opened, uses crazy memory and becomes unusable fast once it starts paging. Firefox remains stable, backgrounds tabs you're not using in a graceful way, and doesn't try to open and render every single tab at once on a session restore.

It's unbelievable that Chrome still does this, after the problem has been reported for years.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by sipsop »

yellowapple wrote: post #262
grandalf wrote: post #204

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This is probably b/c most people at Google use computers with 32GB of ram.

This might sound silly to some, but I wouldn't be surprised if Google limited its usability tests to high-end machines with RAM in the double-digits. I reckon most programming teams have this issue, since even if they're dogfooding, they're doing so on high-end hardware, meaning that low-end hardware is untested and often unusable. Google isn't the only culprit; many websites nowadays will start to lean heavier towar…

Yup. Similar to the mobile html5 app I am rescuing that ran smoothly in chrome om the developers desktops with 16 gb of ram and core i7 and what not but the complex animations are shockingly less smooth on the iPad 2. Weird

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by joesmo »

lttlrck wrote: post #199
joesmo wrote: post #72

The issue that has me considering a switch is that the latest Chrome dev tools' network panel tries too hard to show a preview of JSON requests that are not JSON. When I get exceptions and such, they come through as HTML or plaintext, sometimes with JSON at the end. Previously, Chrome would realize that it's not proper JSON and render the HTML. Now it doesn't render the HTML preview, but does render the JSON which is…

Did you report it?

I have now, but I don't expect it to be fixed.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by narrowrail »

Comment-types I find odd in this thread (given this is HN):

1) People that only use one browser.

2) People that use Chrome over Chromium.

3) People that do not have one browser with js disabled.

4) People that have flash installed (there is some overlap with #1 here because Chrome bundles flash).

Everybody here should know better, IMO.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by eropple »

scholia wrote: post #516
eropple wrote: post #443

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> Now that the age of SoCs/tablets/etc is upon us, people don't have as much extra memory as they did when Chrome first arrived. That may have an impact on how usable Chrome is (don't know if it's smart about "dialing down" its memory usage). To me, the worst part is that Chrome seems, even without significant extensions, to be a CPU hog. And that translates into worse battery life. I switched to Firefox strictly bec…

Chrome may be killing your battery to make it feel "peppier" https://randomascii.wordpress.com/2013/07/08/windows-timer-r...

I'm on a Mac. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if it was sacrificing my battery life on the altar of convenience.
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