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Apple Gears Up to Challenge Tesla in Electric Cars

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Re: Apple Gears Up to Challenge Tesla in Electric Cars

#51
As negative as it may sound, there's really no need to extend their closed ecosystem once again into something that only began to grow (electric vehicles). I hope this scattering approach will be their ultimate demise.

What I like about Musk an his company is that he's not evil (yet?) and so for now the private space industry and electric vehicles are looking really nice.

Re: Apple Gears Up to Challenge Tesla in Electric Cars

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Nice of Elon Musk to open source Tesla's patents, will make things easier for Apple.

Who would you rather buy from though? The innovator, or the imitator? Price may be the differentiating factor, but I think most ppl would choose the innovator.

Are you kidding me? Almost Apple's entire product line has been very polished, stylish imitations (Xerox Alto -> Apple PC, Diamond Rio -> iPod, Blackberry -> iPhone, Microsoft Tablet PC -> iPad) with some incremental improvements, and they've been extremely popular.

I think history has shown that most people will choose the imitator, if the imitation is a good one.

Re: Apple Gears Up to Challenge Tesla in Electric Cars

#53

Might explain Musk weird press conference earlier this week. Said he would need massive amounts of cash soon. Maybe he knew what's going on with Apple. Or just that he needs money for the battery factory.

It's probably a signal to Google.

Re: Apple Gears Up to Challenge Tesla in Electric Cars

#54
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Who would you rather buy from though? The innovator, or the imitator? Price may be the differentiating factor, but I think most ppl would choose the innovator.

People buy from whoever makes the best product at the best price. Regular consumers can careless about who had the original idea, they only care about who executed best.

> People buy from whoever makes the best product at the best price.

People buy from whoever does the best marketing (that is, whoever makes them feel like they are getting the best product for them.)

> Regular consumers can careless about who had the original idea

(Nitpick: "careless" is not the same thing "care less")

Regular consumers probably do care about originality, which is why being "the original X" often plays a key role in marketing, in products in a wide array of different markets. If it wasn't something consumers tended to care about, it wouldn't likely be a perennial marketing point.

It is, of course, not the only thing consumers care about, obviously.

> they only care about who executed best

Arguably, they don't care directly about who executed best, they care about who they trust to execute best for them. Evidence about having executed well to others, like being the original in a category, may be indicators by which consumers judge that likelihood.

Re: Apple Gears Up to Challenge Tesla in Electric Cars

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I would say apple has no domain expertise and they should focus on what they focus on. This is positive news for the "future" no matter how it is seen. It might very well be the largest mistake Apple has ever done and seal its demise or the smartest move and they will be a global dominant company even more so than today...

Apple has more than enough money to try 50 experiments like this.

And enough money to buy an existing car company and/or joint venture.

Re: Apple Gears Up to Challenge Tesla in Electric Cars

#56
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On one hand, Apple is clearly not in their wheelhouse when it comes to vehicles - even Google has more experience than them. On the other hand, I would kill for an electric (or even hybrid) minivan. The Model-S with 2 extra seats just isn't enough room. On the gripping hand, look at how Apple played the industry and pundits on sapphire. Where is WSJ getting their info - they didn't even describe their sources.

Google has that experience because of their own research. There's nothing to say that any other company of large enough size can't do research of their own. This is especially important to consider when you think about the level of secrecy Apple has when starting an internal project. Despite all of that, it's super unlikely Apple would make a car. It's just too weird.

Re: Apple Gears Up to Challenge Tesla in Electric Cars

#57

Possible downside: Apple could end up bidding against Tesla for employees, factories, and rare materials; increasing the price of electric cars and slowing Tesla's production and growth, while not producing many cars itself for some time.

Musk mentioned the other day that Apple frequently tries to poach Tesla employees, but hasn't been very successful.

Re: Apple Gears Up to Challenge Tesla in Electric Cars

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Wow, two downvotes in ten minutes! I'm honestly at a loss as to why. If anyone could clue me in, I'd be grateful. Thanks. Edit: very funny, you mysterious downvoters. Now the downvotes are on _this_ comment, and the original one has been upvoted 4 times. And I still haven't learned how/why I should change my behavior in the future. The only thing I've learned is that up/down voting seems to be random.

Stop caring so much.

I don't care. And I'm not offended or upset in the slightest. I'm simply curious. And mildly amused.

Re: Apple Gears Up to Challenge Tesla in Electric Cars

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On one hand, Apple is clearly not in their wheelhouse when it comes to vehicles - even Google has more experience than them. On the other hand, I would kill for an electric (or even hybrid) minivan. The Model-S with 2 extra seats just isn't enough room. On the gripping hand, look at how Apple played the industry and pundits on sapphire. Where is WSJ getting their info - they didn't even describe their sources.

How did Apple play the industry on sapphire? They attempted it, put up hundreds of millions of dollars, and failed at attempting to bring a sapphire screen to market, which included bankrupting the manufacturer in the process.

Re: Apple Gears Up to Challenge Tesla in Electric Cars

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