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Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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I do the same thing; it's incredibly easy to do with the Tree View Tabs extension. For example, while browsing HN, I'll frequently just middle-click a bunch of article links and (occasionally) their comments, then read them once I have a sizable queue. Same goes for trying to look up documentation to fix some bug in my code; I'll start with a DuckDuckGo search and, suddenly, I have at least a dozen (sometimes multipl…

What is the name of that extension? I searched and get over a thousand results. Thanks!

Search DuckDuckGo for "Tree Style Tabs"; it should be the first result.

It should also be the first result if you search Mozilla's add-on marketplace thingamajig for "Tree Style Tabs". Here's the link for convenience: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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If you use AdBlockPlus, you can switch to uBlock ( https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock ) to achieve better memory performance.

How painless is the transition with a fairly large collection of custom filters and the like?

If you use custom filters instead of subscribing to one of the popular filtersets, then you should check to see whether you're even using the kind of rules that ABP doesn't handle well. The memory and CPU usage only gets bad when you've got a lot of broad-spectrum CSS element hiding rules; regular URL-based blocking rules are plenty scalable.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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They want to make their little OS inside your current OS, so that's it, they introduce accounts, users, apps, notifications... Meanwhile most people (including me) just want to browse the damn open internet.

Sorry, but "most people" couldn't care less about whatever concerns you have and actually appreciate the benefits of easier Google app usage.

I'm moderately well-informed about the trade-offs I'm making when I sign in to Google services and I choose to do so.

I also do so with Amazon and Microsoft and would probably claim that I am offering informed consent.

I'm keen to have it explained to me where I might be in error on this matter.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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I regularly have several hundred tabs open in Firefox with no problems. Some people may think this is crazy or messy but I find it very useful for organizing the various projects I'm working on for different clients and my own personal projects. Tab groups and delayed loading make it all very smooth. Such usage is just not possible with Chrome. I tried to switch to Chrome but couldn't find the features I needed and d…

As a Chrome developer, I agree that process-per-tab absolutely should not be a replacement for fixing bugs. However, I think it's important to point out that process-per-tab is not just for stability: it's also critical for security.

I found your statement very interesting, and would like to learn more. If you're allowed, would you please provide more details or links to resources that further explain the security issues that process-per-tab resolves?

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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The problem is using many open tabs with Chrome. If you use no more than 3 or 4 tabs, Chrome is generally fine. If you use more than that, Firefox has some built-in features to help with tabs such as delayed tab loading and tab grouping. It also has more and better extensions for helping with multiple tabs. Furthermore, it doesn't launch a new process for each tab. In a browser comparison I wrote last month, I includ…

> It also has more and better extensions for helping with multiple tabs. Exactly. Tree Style Tab being the biggest reason I've never switched to Chrome.

It's also the reason why I switched from Chrome to Firefox. Sure, having 150 tabs open does slow down a machine at least a little bit, but god damn does it feel good to be able to do that without having to horizontally scroll though all 150 of them individually.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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I regularly have several hundred tabs open in Firefox with no problems. Some people may think this is crazy or messy but I find it very useful for organizing the various projects I'm working on for different clients and my own personal projects. Tab groups and delayed loading make it all very smooth. Such usage is just not possible with Chrome. I tried to switch to Chrome but couldn't find the features I needed and d…

As a Chrome developer, I agree that process-per-tab absolutely should not be a replacement for fixing bugs. However, I think it's important to point out that process-per-tab is not just for stability: it's also critical for security.

Chrome is way ahead of Firefox in terms of security. It's worth the performance trade-offs.

Each website is rendered in a separate process with a sandbox, each with an empty chroot + process namespace + network namespace + tiny seccomp-bpf + syscall whitelist.

Chrome also has a stronger sandbox, pioneers better SSL, supports PIE on binaries, uses pepper - doesnt use native Flash plugins, the JIT compiler does randomization / encryption tricks to make it hard to heap spray exploit code. They have their own hardened memory allocator called PartitionAlloc.

Etc Etc.

Firefox also had more critical CVEs in 2014 than Chrome: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2CRyJkmV

And reports of sandbox escapes are less common in Chrome for a reason.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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The problem is using many open tabs with Chrome. If you use no more than 3 or 4 tabs, Chrome is generally fine. If you use more than that, Firefox has some built-in features to help with tabs such as delayed tab loading and tab grouping. It also has more and better extensions for helping with multiple tabs. Furthermore, it doesn't launch a new process for each tab. In a browser comparison I wrote last month, I includ…

I regularly have several hundred tabs open in Firefox with no problems. Some people may think this is crazy or messy but I find it very useful for organizing the various projects I'm working on for different clients and my own personal projects. Tab groups and delayed loading make it all very smooth. Such usage is just not possible with Chrome. I tried to switch to Chrome but couldn't find the features I needed and d…

I find this essentially when I run high numbers of tabs:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

Though another comment has led me to wonder if FF doesn't have something similar built-in.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Sometimes Ctrl+w can lead to horrible pain if you accidentally hit Q which is just next to w.

Chrome has a menu item toggle called "Warn before quitting" that I just enabled, and it has already saved me a bunch of times!!!! In OSX it's under the Chrome menu item (before File), don't know where they stuck it in Windows.

I don't think Windows has it, also because the keyboard command to exit an application is alt+f4, which isn't easy to hit on accident.
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