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Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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I don't understand why people on Macs don't simply use Safari. It's good, it's fast, and it works really well.

Because it's massively insecure. 63 code exploits last year vs Chrome's 4

http://www.cvedetails.com/product/2935/Apple-Safari.html?ven...

http://www.cvedetails.com/product/15031/Google-Chrome.html?v...

Add to that Chrome has a far more secure version of Flash and yea, I'll be avoiding Safari (and Firefox) until they catch up.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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The biggest issue I have with Chrome is how aggressive it's been about linking Google IDs with the browser. I've lost data twice by bugs related to not having a linked ID. Please Google, understand this; I don't want my browser linked with my Google account.

There are forks of chromium like iron improving the situation... If people would use them and contribute.

I wouldn't recommend Iron.

http://neugierig.org/software/chromium/notes/2009/12/iron.ht...

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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I hate what Google did to Chrome. Went from a browser to some sort of a franken-OS inside of your own OS. Seriously, a user switcher? You mean that one feature that _every single OS Chrome runs on_ has?

Also I hate how Google switched all of its apps to webapps, which work worse and use more resources than their native counterparts.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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> Superfluous RAM use hurts battery life a lot Do you have a reference for why this should be? A quick search yields results suggesting only the opposite (for instance, https://superuser.com/questions/738848/does-more-ram-usage-c... ).

More ram in use generally means more javascript crap running. Which means higher cpu/energy use. Its not the memory use its what is using the memory.

So...the claim is that chrome runs a lot more javascript than safari?

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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I'm usually keeping 100-150 (!) tabs open, using "Tabman" to navigate between them https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tabman-tabs-manage... (disclosure: I made this extension) and using also "The Great Suspender" for the performance. This works great with so many tabs on my 2 year old laptop.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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I've got a bad habit with tabs that Chrome doesn't enable. The only solution I've found that works is to use Tab Mix Plus and set it to allow up to nine rows of tabs. Once I start getting past about three rows it starts to shut out the viewable screen space and I up saying F this and going on a deleting spree, or bookmarking all open tabs.

The second reason I don't use Chrome is with a logitech mouse on Mac, there are no good gesture extensions that I know of that will allow me to right-click / scroll wheel to zoom through open tabs. Actually, all gesture extensions seem crippled in some way or another.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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I read the article hoping for something insightful, but when I read the paragraph ...a half-dozen tabs that auto-open on launch thanks to the dozens of extensions I've accumulated over the years[...] I had to stop and say "wait, what?" To leverage his analogy that it is like coming home to a new house to find that most of your stuff is already there, it is like not cleaning your house and not taking out the trash for…

You could have realised this was linkbait from the domain name - dang can we please lower the rank for gizmodo.com links?

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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exactly!! I don't want Google everywhere.That's why I changed the default search engine to duckduckgo. Let's see how it goes.

I tried that. DDG just wasn't even remotely good enough to service my searching habits. Instead, I've switched to Disconnect search. They proxy searches and claim to do so anonymously. So at least I'm not directly contributing to Google's profile building that way. It does add a second or two latency per search, which can be annoying. FF switched to Yahoo, and I'm just amused at how bad it is. They even open results…

I use Duckduckgo optimistically. First I use ddg then if the results aren't satisfactory I use google.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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I've using firefox on a 4Gb linux machine for about two years so far.. and it's working just fine, each release it keeps better and better

Edit: I want to apologize to eridal. I misread his/her statement and though the browser in question was Chrome, not Firefox. So, public apolgy: I'm very sorry, eridal. I thought you wrote something you did not. My comment was wrong as a result. I have corrected my mistake, and wish to apologize to you personally for misreading what you wrote. Original message with the offending part removed, mistakenly assuming erida…

I, at least, do typically run with anywhere from 50-200 tabs (or more!) at any given time. Yeah, there's some slowdown if you're running on an 8GB machine (I'm typing this on a Macbook Air with a Firefox session with at least 100 tabs open at the moment (SEE EDIT)), but it's certainly way more than I used to get with Chrome before I switched back to Firefox a couple years back (Tree View Tabs being the motivating factor). Currently using 5.4GB of RAM (OSX is reporting a "Compressed Mem" of 2.96GB), and it's currently pegging one of the cores of the i7 on this thing. This is after about a week of nonstop (i.e. same Firefox process) use, and with Flash present in a lot of places (like the 20+ Github tabs I have open, thanks to Github using Flash for its silly "click here to copy a link to your clipboard" feature; I really need to get those wretched things blocked); a lot of things will clear out pretty well after restarting and restoring the opened tabs (though this is partly because they're not loaded into memory again until they're accessed again).

EDIT: After posting this comment, I closed all my tabs (something which causes one of my extensions - probably Tree Style Tab - to throw a confirmation dialog with the number of tabs). The number was 233, plus another ten or so in another window. I must say, that's pretty damn good, all things considered.

I'm trying out Nightly right now to see if I can push that even further with the new e10s features.

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