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Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by makomk »

ergothus wrote: post #316
jackmaney wrote: post #313

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I use Chrome as my only browser. On my desktop, I run an average of 20 tabs open at any given time, across two windows. I also run Chrome on my Android phone (Samsung Galaxy Note 3) and keep 4--8 tabs open at any given time. I reboot my desktop once every 1--2 weeks, and my phone maybe once per month. Other than the rare tab freezing up and needing to be restarted, I've had absolutely no issues. Chrome just works.

Our workflow sounds similar, except that when my system reboots, Chrome is frozen for a minute as every tab tries to reload simultaneously, following by confusion as any youtube tabs all start playing. On Firefox I had no such issue as each tab would only reload on focus.

Chrome on my girlfriend's PC did that in the middle of the night once or twice. I guess Windows or Chrome decided to update or something, not sure which, but all the YouTube videos in all the tabs started playing in the earlier hours of the morning.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by seanalltogether »

FreakyT wrote: post #19

Firefox on Mac still has too many visual issues, and the devs often drag their feet on fixing them. Lion (released 2011) added "bounce" scrolling and auto-hiding scrollbars. It took them nearly half a year to fix the lack of auto-hiding scrollbars nightly builds[1], and even longer for it to finally make it to mainline Firefox. Firefox still doesn't have bounce scrolling. To add to that point, the first high-dpi (ret…

That interesting because one of the reasons I abandoned Chrome on mac is because of all the visual problems I had. Image loading is the biggest annoyance, why can't they simply load an image scaled correctly to the viewport of the window without scrollbars.

https://i.imgur.com/yffoLQY.jpg

Take a large image like this, first off it loads full size instead of scaled, and when you click teh magnifying glass to scale it, you still have to scroll to see the whole thing

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by cpeterso »

dragonshed wrote: post #174
moe wrote: post #162

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I left Firefox because it was measurably slower than Chrome at the time (and not by a small margin) and because crashes/hangs would usually take the whole Browser down.

This. Have the scales tipped the other way recently? Chrome still feels faster to me, but I only have one active extension (Ad Blocker).

The Ad Block Plus extension is itself a notorious memory and CPU hog [1]. Chrome's slimmer uBlock extension has now been ported to Firefox [2].

[1] https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2014/05/14/adblock-plus...

[2] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by makomk »

yellowapple wrote: post #262
grandalf wrote: post #204

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This is probably b/c most people at Google use computers with 32GB of ram.

This might sound silly to some, but I wouldn't be surprised if Google limited its usability tests to high-end machines with RAM in the double-digits. I reckon most programming teams have this issue, since even if they're dogfooding, they're doing so on high-end hardware, meaning that low-end hardware is untested and often unusable. Google isn't the only culprit; many websites nowadays will start to lean heavier towar…

It's certainly not the only issue with running Chrome on machines that aren't configured just like Google's. If you try and run it on a Linux distro which limits the number of open files per process to 1024, like most do by default, it crashes when you try and open more than a handful of tabs. Turns out that Google run a custom version of Ubuntu internally with the limit raised to something like 32,768 open files per process, so they never ran into the issue.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by [deleted] »

tonetheman wrote: post #319
yellowapple wrote: post #257

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I do the same thing; it's incredibly easy to do with the Tree View Tabs extension. For example, while browsing HN, I'll frequently just middle-click a bunch of article links and (occasionally) their comments, then read them once I have a sizable queue. Same goes for trying to look up documentation to fix some bug in my code; I'll start with a DuckDuckGo search and, suddenly, I have at least a dozen (sometimes multipl…

What is the name of that extension? I searched and get over a thousand results. Thanks!

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Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by cpeterso »

Firefox also has (experimental) built-in tracking protection without needing to install a third-party extension. The tracking list is based on Disconnect's list. You can activate Firefox's tracking protection by switching the "privacy.trackingprotection.enabled" about:config pref to true.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by isaiahg »

I have some harsh news for you. I did exactly that. I moved back to firefox after probably 3 years on chrome. It's not much better.

There's one thing about chrome that has spoiled me. The fact that when something crashes only the tab or tabs crash. After the third time firefox crashes and the whole browser locks up you go back, like me. Also chrome's task manager is magnificent.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by benjaminpv »

jcoffland wrote: post #245
FilterJoe wrote: post #177

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The problem is using many open tabs with Chrome. If you use no more than 3 or 4 tabs, Chrome is generally fine. If you use more than that, Firefox has some built-in features to help with tabs such as delayed tab loading and tab grouping. It also has more and better extensions for helping with multiple tabs. Furthermore, it doesn't launch a new process for each tab. In a browser comparison I wrote last month, I includ…

I regularly have several hundred tabs open in Firefox with no problems. Some people may think this is crazy or messy but I find it very useful for organizing the various projects I'm working on for different clients and my own personal projects. Tab groups and delayed loading make it all very smooth. Such usage is just not possible with Chrome. I tried to switch to Chrome but couldn't find the features I needed and d…

I find that over time I end up with a bunch of tabs whose content seems interesting that grow over time. My working set is off to one side while the 'to read' tabs stack up over to the left.

I'd found a big boon for this workflow in the very simple extension "Export Tabs[1]." It's really simple: click an icon on the toolbar and it lists open tabs by title and then by URL.

Now when I notice that I've got a real glut of tabs open I dump them into my bookmark software so I can comb through later.

Like I said, really simple extension but tremendously helpful.

[1]: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/export-tabs/odafag...

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by sukilot »

Morphling wrote: post #223
colin_jack wrote: post #10

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Its been my recent experience too, I keep a lot of tabs open and began to notice Chrome was filling up my memory. Very strange that Google let the situation get so bad. Mind you I find the Chrome developer tools far more powerful and intuitive than those in Firefox which stops me moving entirely.

I hear quite a few people talking how they have 30-50 tabs open, how do people manage something like that? And why would anyone need so many simultaneous tabs open?

If your work involves living in web apps (github, trello, gDocs, etc) he tabs pile up quickly. If you live in Photoshop or MS suite, not so much.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by bigbugbag »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #31
nvk wrote: post #20

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They are free to that, just please give me a reasonable way of opting out.

It's called Chromium.

Nah man, it's iron by srware and it has been around since 2008.

check this comparison between chrome and iron (which is based on chromium): https://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iro...

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