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Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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As of late I've been using a mix of Chrom{e,ium} and Firefox, and frankly at this point I've basically resigned myself to the fact that browsers, as a class of software, are just universally terrible. So I say "fuck it, I'm going back to my shell and text editor."

I cannot wait for the current trend of all-things-must-be-web-things to die.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are free to that, just please give me a reasonable way of opting out.

The new Opera has the same engine of Chrome and none of the inconveniences. I'm using Firefox as primary browser and Chrome in another virtual desktop to work in Google Drive because it's a little faster (maybe too many extensions). I replaced it with Opera and it works well. I have no idea if it can use Chrome extensions, never installed one anyway as it was a single purpose browser.

It can use Chrome extensions, you just need to install this Opera extension:

https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/download-chro...

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

#123
I'm happy I wasn't the only one who noticed this. Hopefully Google pays attention, because the marketshare they enjoy may soon see a decline.

Chrome's performance has taken a major hit on iOS and OS X. It regularly freezes up and seems to be getting worse with each new update. Now Chrome to Mobile is being axed soon, to be "replaced" with Google Sync - which isn't even the same thing.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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post #80

I finally gave Chrome the heave-ho when a recent update forced you to browse under a personal profile. There was a bug in the implementation that would crash the browser if you deleted the profile it created for you (I just wanted to use it normally like I always did!) I ended up inadvertently deleting all my saved bookmarks from the Chrome cloud or whatever. Fed up, I switched to Firefox and have been remarkably hap…

You had always had a profile.. Chrome just made it more visible so that you knew about Guest mode and stuff.. Of course deleting your user profile deleted all of that profile's data

Your condescension is on point, but your reading comprehension could use some work: what I deleted was not my browser profile (which turns out to be undeleteable, and crashy), but my bookmarks that have been stored in my Google account in the cloud for years. Previously the browser-level profile (if indeed it existed) was invisible to me so it never bothered me. Also unclear why a "guest mode" needs to be different than the incognito mode which was already understood by everyone.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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post #116
post #7

The biggest issue I have with Chrome is how aggressive it's been about linking Google IDs with the browser. I've lost data twice by bugs related to not having a linked ID. Please Google, understand this; I don't want my browser linked with my Google account.

There are forks of chromium like iron improving the situation... If people would use them and contribute.

Why would you use and contribute to one of them instead of Firefox?

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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post #28
post #7

The biggest issue I have with Chrome is how aggressive it's been about linking Google IDs with the browser. I've lost data twice by bugs related to not having a linked ID. Please Google, understand this; I don't want my browser linked with my Google account.

How did you loose data that way? And I agree 100% with you!

I lost all bookmarks as well (in Google Chrome Canary, not stable Chrome) due a bug. Canary sometimes is buggy and parts of the theme (e.g. scrollbar) sometimes even look like OSX, probably because most Chrome devs work on OSX and don't regression test the Win7+ daily-build that often.

Storing bookmarks as *.lnk as with IE3+ is still the way to go. Though, I found out that 50% of my bookmarks are obsolete and many were never archived in archive.org due evil robots.txt entries.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

#127

The worst part about chrome for me is that I can't access my Gmail accounts through Chrome. That's right, I have to use Firefox to access Google's own product because Chrome won't play nice with my school Google Apps account that my school provided us for email. Whenever I try to get to my school account it redirects to the gmail account I used to sign into Chrome - this happens regardless of whether I try to access…

Click your user icon. Click add account. Add school account. Now you can use both.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

#128

I find Chrome's web dev tools to be vastly superior to FF and last time I tried it it didn't look good on my Mac and I had the same memory problems as with Chrome. Until FF get's much faster or better devtools than chrome I'm not interested. Not to mention how often does a Chrome extension hit the front page of HN vs a FF one? Don't get me wrong, I don't love Chrome unconditionally (the RAM usage is crazy but so is F…

I would have agreed with you about the usefulness of the stock dev tools up until a couple months ago when I made Firefox my main browser again, the main tabs I use (network, console, and elements/inspector) are pretty much at 99% parity.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

#129

I find Chrome's web dev tools to be vastly superior to FF and last time I tried it it didn't look good on my Mac and I had the same memory problems as with Chrome. Until FF get's much faster or better devtools than chrome I'm not interested. Not to mention how often does a Chrome extension hit the front page of HN vs a FF one? Don't get me wrong, I don't love Chrome unconditionally (the RAM usage is crazy but so is F…

I would have agreed with you about the usefulness of the stock dev tools up until a couple months ago when I made Firefox my main browser again, the main tabs I use (network, console, and elements/inspector) are pretty much at 99% parity.

I will have to make another run at it then, it's been probably 4-5 months since I last tried to switch.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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post #15

I read the article hoping for something insightful, but when I read the paragraph ...a half-dozen tabs that auto-open on launch thanks to the dozens of extensions I've accumulated over the years[...] I had to stop and say "wait, what?" To leverage his analogy that it is like coming home to a new house to find that most of your stuff is already there, it is like not cleaning your house and not taking out the trash for…

Right. That paragraph about the extensions makes me question the credibility of his claims. Disappointing. I haven't experienced the performance problems he describes, and I use the Chrome dev channel for my main browser. I've noticed Firefox has been getting faster over the last couple years, but when I use it I still get the feeling that it gets in my way more than Chrome does. Edit: fix typo

He's part of the rule that tech writers aren't technical people and often write about things they don't understand. As some famous person recently said, there's a huge amount of "intellectual dishonesty" in tech journalism.
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