Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox • Hacker News Board

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by jrochkind1 » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 6:00 PM UTC

theVirginian wrote: post #61

The worst part about chrome for me is that I can't access my Gmail accounts through Chrome. That's right, I have to use Firefox to access Google's own product because Chrome won't play nice with my school Google Apps account that my school provided us for email. Whenever I try to get to my school account it redirects to the gmail account I used to sign into Chrome - this happens regardless of whether I try to access…

I share your pain. One way to get around it is to use the Chrome 'multiple profiles' feature, it lets you switch to a different 'profile' with entirely different cookies, cache, etc., and will let you sign into a different Google account than in your first profile.

You can switch profiles and even have different profiles active in different Chrome windows, without restarting Chrome.

https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/2364824?hl=en

(I am not saying this makes it all better, trying to use more than one Google account is a _mess_ no matter what. But that it's one workaround I discovered recently, which has been lessening the pain somewhat)

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by jarcane » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 6:00 PM UTC

vor_ wrote: post #29

jarcane wrote: post #16

I have some serious issues with Chrome (the permaloading, it's new download blocking 'feature', poor startup time), but I did not find Firefox remotely an improvement. On my system it is half as fast, twice as buggy, and even more memory hungry than Chrome is. I think people overstate Chrome's memory usage as a factor of performance; IME it's still less than FF in total most times, and largely that memory cost doesn'…

What makes Safari a toy?

Safari on Windows has always been a toy. Now it's an unsupported toy to boot.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by kenrick95 » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 6:01 PM UTC

boobsbr wrote: post #71

I've been using Chrome for a long time now. Then I had to go back to Firefox on the company computer. What a disappointment. Still slow as hell.

Update the Firefox on the company computer maybe? A fresh Firefox can be installed locally without admin access (I've done this in my school's shared computer).

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by Navarr » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 6:03 PM UTC

falcolas wrote: post #100

Navarr wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might want to check your extensions. I know AdBlock+ is a very popular, common, RAM-hungry extension

I moved to a hosts file based ad blocking solution, which has worked well for me thus far. http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ But when you have youtube, gmail, and other web applications open, memory usage tends to go nuts. I've been told that it's technically impossible for a web application to have a memory leak, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Whomever said that it's technically impossible for a web application to have a memory leak is a liar.

I wrote a slightly-more-than-basic Angular.js app and it leaks like crazy up to the point that the Chrome tab will crash.

If you're having serious ram problems in Chrome though, Shift-ESC is your friend. Shows you what exactly is consuming RAM (in the event you didn't already know)

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by justizin » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 6:04 PM UTC

I don't have to agree with the author's justifications, I switched back some time ago for primary browsing because FireFox makes a browser for me and Google makes a browser for them.

Privacy Extensions always seem to work better in FF because it's produced by an organization, if imperfect, whose values center around privacy and not subservience to advertisers.

I've worked in offices of companies with ad-supported site where we could barely support the product without an ad blocker, but these days I primarily lean toward privacy badger or other privacy-oriented extensions like Disconnect.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by jrochkind1 » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 6:04 PM UTC

rockdoe wrote: post #57

at_ wrote: post #21

The reliability of Firefox's post-crash 'session restore' is what made me stick with it for good over Chrome. Life of a power tabber.

I'm not sure how you can use Chrome with a lot of tabs anyway. Maybe with a mouse with a DPI switch so you can hit the few pixes they size down to if you have 20+?

Keyboard controls to switch tabs. But I can have about 20 before they get too small to click on my laptop -- but they've already become too small to know what is in what tab at that point. I do it anyway. Because my browser is just about as messy as my physical desktop or my apartment.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by ldng » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 6:05 PM UTC

Scarbutt wrote: post #8

My only beef with Firefox is multiple webpages don't render well for me, but those pages render fine in Chrome and IE. I haven't stop once to debug why (I just switch to Chrome but sometimes do report the websites to Mozilla), can the reason be in Firefox being more pure and the others browsers allowing more quirks? If this is the case, isn't this bad UX?

Half the time I encounter pages that don't render well with FF it's because they use API only available in Chrome and those pages and/or spa have not even been tested in other browsers.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by Surio » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 6:06 PM UTC

A few questions were asking for chrome "alternatives"

FWIW, there is SRWARE Iron: http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_faq.php

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by mtrimpe » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 6:07 PM UTC

gear54rus wrote: post #4

lisa_henderson wrote: post #2

This has been exactly my experience. I was an early convert to Chrome, and I loved how fast it was, but now I find it slow and buggy. There are some partial workarounds: Chrome does a cache lookup on your history when you type, so if you delete your history, then you get a speed bump. But I'm annoyed that I have to erase my history. If I never erase my history, Chrome gets very slow after a few months of history pili…

I never switched to chrome since it seemed sub-par all that time (reduced set of controls, dumbed down all the way) but flash-related crashes are Adobe's problem actually (I also have them on FF sometimes). When will this proprietary crap die off already?

Chrome doesn't run Adobe Flash; it runs its own version called PepperFlash by default.

I know because I witnessed them breaking one Flash video-recording feature after the other trying to reimplement the damn thing...

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by Max_Mustermann » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 6:08 PM UTC

kenrick95 wrote: post #96

rockdoe wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) What do you do to make "Firefox memory goes too high" 2) What does about:crashes say for the crashes you get? Are those known bugs?

If you use AdBlockPlus, you can switch to uBlock ( https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock ) to achieve better memory performance.

How painless is the transition with a fairly large collection of custom filters and the like?