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Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They want to make their little OS inside your current OS, so that's it, they introduce accounts, users, apps, notifications... Meanwhile most people (including me) just want to browse the damn open internet.

They are free to that, just please give me a reasonable way of opting out.

It's called Chromium.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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I read the article hoping for something insightful, but when I read the paragraph ...a half-dozen tabs that auto-open on launch thanks to the dozens of extensions I've accumulated over the years[...] I had to stop and say "wait, what?" To leverage his analogy that it is like coming home to a new house to find that most of your stuff is already there, it is like not cleaning your house and not taking out the trash for…

Well, as one piece of anecdotal evidence: I only use one browser extension (Vimium on Chrome, VimFx on Firefox) and still find Firefox significantly faster than Chrome.

Also, I like using the same browser on my Android tablet as on my laptop and websites that use MathJax render incorrectly on Android Chrome (these sites render perfectly well on Android Firefox and on both desktop Firefox and desktop Chrome). So I'd probably use Firefox even if it were a little slower than Chrome.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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post #15

I read the article hoping for something insightful, but when I read the paragraph ...a half-dozen tabs that auto-open on launch thanks to the dozens of extensions I've accumulated over the years[...] I had to stop and say "wait, what?" To leverage his analogy that it is like coming home to a new house to find that most of your stuff is already there, it is like not cleaning your house and not taking out the trash for…

To be fair quite a few users left Firefox because they found it "bloated" or "it didn't work anymore" but never realized they were the ones that installed the bloat/adware/malware.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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I'll switch back to Firefox when they stop re-arranging the UI. Every year or so it gets changed. It's what drove me to Chrome in the first place.

Ug. I know how you feel. I've had success using https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemer...

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Though most of time, I still use Chrome, yeah, most of time, because recently(about one or more years), Chrome crashes a lot and when it keep crashing in some pages, I have to use other, like Firefox, I plan to switch to Firefox as well. Chrome crashes everyday. That's really annoying. I am on Ubuntu 12.04.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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post #16

I have some serious issues with Chrome (the permaloading, it's new download blocking 'feature', poor startup time), but I did not find Firefox remotely an improvement. On my system it is half as fast, twice as buggy, and even more memory hungry than Chrome is. I think people overstate Chrome's memory usage as a factor of performance; IME it's still less than FF in total most times, and largely that memory cost doesn'…

I'm not sure how you get Firefox to use more memory than Chrome. Like literally, I wouldn't manage it even if I tried. (Cheating by installing extensions notwithstanding)

I left Chrome open overnight and by the time I came back it was pegging the CPU at 100%. No extensions, no nothing. Seriously Google?

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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I recently switched to Safari for similar reasons. Safari is much faster than it used to be. It's also tightly integrated with my phone, including password management functionality (similar to LastPass) that works on all my devices. You can also get AdBlock for Safari now, which wasn't always the case. It also has a snazzy built-in RSS reader and just looks better than Chrome.

Exactly, Safari handles 90% of web needs and doesn't clog up my memory the way Chrome does. It handles my battery exponentially better then Chrome as well. Then with adblock plus, lastpass and pocket I'm all set on extensions.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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post #19

Firefox on Mac still has too many visual issues, and the devs often drag their feet on fixing them. Lion (released 2011) added "bounce" scrolling and auto-hiding scrollbars. It took them nearly half a year to fix the lack of auto-hiding scrollbars nightly builds[1], and even longer for it to finally make it to mainline Firefox. Firefox still doesn't have bounce scrolling. To add to that point, the first high-dpi (ret…

> Finally, it's still not multi-process (though it's finally getting there.) [2]

In fact, Nightly now is by default.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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post #16

I have some serious issues with Chrome (the permaloading, it's new download blocking 'feature', poor startup time), but I did not find Firefox remotely an improvement. On my system it is half as fast, twice as buggy, and even more memory hungry than Chrome is. I think people overstate Chrome's memory usage as a factor of performance; IME it's still less than FF in total most times, and largely that memory cost doesn'…

How long since you last tried Firefox? This is almost completely opposite my experience with Firefox vs. Chrome. Chrome for 4 tabs consumes about 600MB, Firefox for those same 4 plus 8 more consumes 400MB.

I also haven't seen any significant memory leaks in the last year or two.

Sad to say, but 1.4 G is not uncommmon (or even unreasonable) for any browser these days, mostly due not to the browser itself, but the resources consumed by the individual web sites.

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