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As a german i have to ask: Why do people get fired over things like this? Are american worker employee protection laws so weak that there is no recourse whatsoever for them?
Apparently, you can also be fired in Germany for "disturbance of the general working environment"
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> The ex-Mozilla CEO knows this well. An online bullying campaign was launched against him and he was forced to quit. Hahahahahahaha no. Eich paid money to political campaigns to ensure that some of his own employees and fellow citizens would not have basic human rights. Then, he refused to apologize for it and dodged the question when asked if he would do it again. That's not "expressing an opinion," that's nearly s…
Just curious why this is getting downvoted. Are people actually buying the whole "Eich is a victim because as a white multimillionaire he lost his job because he cared deeply about taking away the rights of others"...?
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> As dislikable as the tweet's content is Did you read the article? By thinking for a few seconds, the point of the tweet is obviously not racist. Not a smart tweet, in retrospect, but. Here's her explanation from the article: > I thought there was no way that anyone could possibly think it was literal. (...) Living in America puts us in a bit of a bubble when it comes to what is going on in the third world. I was ma…
> Did you read the article? By thinking for a few seconds, the point of the tweet is obviously not racist. Honestly, does it even matter? Say it was a racist tweet, and she was a racist. Does that mean she deserved what happened to her? Definitely not.
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At what point does a set of reproducing cells become an "offspring"? It's a hard question to answer and there's no bright line. I understand the opposition's argument, and I don't feel nearly as much animosity towards them. There is no legitimate argument against gay marriage.
I'm gay (& partnered, fwiw), and I'd have to agree that there certainly aren't any good arguments against gay marriage; at least, not any arguments we'd accept in a wealthy, industrialized, western society at the beginning of this millennium, but do keep in mind that the great, great majority of the world does not agree with that assessment. So, what makes an argument legitimate? In order for one to suggest that ther…
Using that as a rulestick, no one will be negatively impacted by homosexuals getting married. Studies have been done, plenty of places around the globe have tried it with no negative consequences. The courts agree. There's no government interest in preventing gay marriage.
I think that public shaming can be laid directly at the feet of Social Justice. It would be great if people who want to make things better for minorities chose a different tactic - private communication rather than public ostracism.
> I think that public shaming can be laid directly at the feet of Social Justice. I'm not entirely sure of what "Social Justice" means in the US, or how can such a thing be negative, but it seems to me that it's about enforcing social norms. If the social clock was set back a few decades earlier, you would get the same pitchfork mob if you tweeted something in favour of homosexuality. Just look at what happened to Ad…
The phrase "social justice" in this context usually refers to things like this:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=social+justic...
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The gray text makes it look like a lot of people disagree. So suppose for the sake of argument that lots of people on the internet considered this post "really f*cking stupid" and tried to get you fired for it - would that not be a problem? I mean presumably you don't think it was a repugnant thing to have posted, but then neither did Justine Sacco.
A fair point but comparing the ideal that people should be held responsible for their actions to a bad racist joke intended to highlight that "living in America puts us in a bit of a bubble when it comes to what is going on in the third world" is apples and oranges at best. If you feel like Gawker would be interested in running a piece on my comment then feel free to go ahead and submit it.
Put it this way - nobody is against the idea of "people being held responsible for their actions". But it's pretty hard to buy that that's what happened here. I remember when the Sacco thing was trending and I never saw anyone who seemed hurt or angry, or even offended. To the contrary, people were thrilled that some PR asshole was going to get fired but didn't know it yet.
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Would society really be any better off if people aren't held accountable for what they say?
The coorect response to what most of these people said is for someone to pull them to one side and say "stop being a dick, especially if you're using the company social media account". Threats of violence, loss of job, weeks long campaigns -- none of that is an appropriate response.
I almost wonder if the best way to handle a scenario like this is to go FULL TROLL MODE and up the ante. Blow out your own credibility so that people realize they are wasting their energy on nonsense.
I would encourage anyone against these lynch mob driven decisions to investigate the companies IAC owns and if possible cease doing business with them, and to let them know why. In particular, OKCupid is in their portfolio.
French guy here. This article only speak about employees in american company getting fired about some data shared on the web. But I would be curious to know what happened to people who faced the same situation working in continental european companies. It would be surprising if people would lost their jobs so easily. Either because I think it's culturally better accepted for private people (I mean not public figures)…
This feels like the main issue here. Barring substantial improvements in everyone's maturity, you won't be able to prevent random people on the Internet from focusing on you for whatever reason. The actual individual actions that follow, however (the employer arbitrarily sacking you, people refusing you service, people harassing you, etc.) are what crosses the line, in my opinion.