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How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life

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Re: How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life

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If I say something stupid to a group of friends, usually they'll tell me it's stupid or I said something wrong, and everyone moves on. If I say something stupid on twitter, it's literally archived forever. Another reason I'm glad I've disconnected from all social media. I'll keep my stupid, non-politically correct jokes in my own head.

Re: How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life

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post #5

How is she is victim here? How is Twitter bad here? She made two racist comments in 1 tweet on her own will. That is not something that should be taken lightly, no matter what the platform. EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm not commenting on whether firing her was fair or not, but rather how her completely intentional tweets makes Twitter the bad guy.

Exactly. You get to pay for your very stupid mistakes, especially those that affect other people (like this lady's tweet did).

Outside of offending people, how exactly did her tweet impact anyone else?

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post #5

How is she is victim here? How is Twitter bad here? She made two racist comments in 1 tweet on her own will. That is not something that should be taken lightly, no matter what the platform. EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm not commenting on whether firing her was fair or not, but rather how her completely intentional tweets makes Twitter the bad guy.

Exactly. You get to pay for your very stupid mistakes, especially those that affect other people (like this lady's tweet did).

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Re: How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life

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post #5

How is she is victim here? How is Twitter bad here? She made two racist comments in 1 tweet on her own will. That is not something that should be taken lightly, no matter what the platform. EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm not commenting on whether firing her was fair or not, but rather how her completely intentional tweets makes Twitter the bad guy.

Exactly. You get to pay for your very stupid mistakes, especially those that affect other people (like this lady's tweet did).

How, exactly, did her tweet affect people?

...unless you standard for "affect" covers all communication. In which case, you're saying "People should pay for the sin of expressing an opinion or making a joke".

...and perhaps you are.

Re: How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life

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Two things: Don't be too clever. People trip over themselves to feel offended. Two, you really don't have freedom of speech when you can get mugged by being obnoxious online. Not being malicious -just obnoxious.

Yes all the tweets quoted in the article were obnoxious and leveraged stereotypes but I don't think people should be flogged for being like that.

I remember all the obnoxious Polish jokes growing up. They were terrible. But I don't agree that they should be censored. Demanding this mind of self censorship is a sign that a society is fragile rather than robust. A robust society can take the jokes.

It's like with friendships. With good friends you can nettle them; say terrible things and we know that's it's all in good fun, a ritual of sorts. With so so friends you don't make bad jokes because the friendship is too fragile. It's a sign of an immature or fragile society when bad jokes upset the cart.

Edit. An irony is that many of the people calling offense don't realize their own transgression in becoming part of a self-righteous mob meting out punishment at the speed of thought.

Re: How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Racist jokes are never harmless.

Please elaborate on the harm caused by her tweet. Edit: Maybe I'm not being clear. What I mean is can you point to any harm done by her tweet besides hurt feelings?

Being publicly racist harms people towards which said racism is directed at. I honestly thought that was an established truth.

Re: How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life

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post #17

I'd like to think that as the world gets more saturated in constant social media and sharing, that we'd have a higher tolerance for things...in this case, a joke that if a person told it to you, with the right tone of voice, it'd be funny...imagine Louis CK making that quip. But no, I doubt it...I think it's more a physical limitation of our brains...we just don't have the brain system designed to adequately consider…

The problem is compounded in that not only are people easily offended, savvy organizations (cough Gawker) have monetized being offended. So not only are our limited monkey brains quick to be insulted, there are now people whose job it is to find the Maximally Offensive Tweets of the day, which only compounds the problem.

Re: How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life

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How is she is victim here? How is Twitter bad here? She made two racist comments in 1 tweet on her own will. That is not something that should be taken lightly, no matter what the platform. EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm not commenting on whether firing her was fair or not, but rather how her completely intentional tweets makes Twitter the bad guy.

She's a victim because the consequences were completely out of proportion to her transgression.

Really? She mocked a whole nation, and used a disease that has killed over a million people as a joke in a public forum.

Re: How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life

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post #22

If I say something stupid to a group of friends, usually they'll tell me it's stupid or I said something wrong, and everyone moves on. If I say something stupid on twitter, it's literally archived forever. Another reason I'm glad I've disconnected from all social media. I'll keep my stupid, non-politically correct jokes in my own head.

It's for that exact reason, I never post to Twitter. However, I consume a lot there. And as a consumer of various Twitter Feeds, I have to say I am pretty happy with the product.
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