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Re: Dropbox for Gmail

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Won't this result in a lot of duplicate records at the NSA?

Surely they have deduplication capabilities, unless you're implying that the Utah data center exists solely to deal with people using NPM in their projects.

Re: Dropbox for Gmail

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Seeing how courageously Dropbox moves into the territory of giants (first Cloudon, now Google Drive turf) the infamous Jobsian "you're a feature not a product" seems to be an iconic short-sighted mistake.

Really? Tell me how Dropbox is doing in 5 years from now after the cost for storage is infinite and free. Gmail already has google drive integration. Dropbox could've made this chrome plugin years ago. In the future all of Dropbox's revenue will most likely come from SMB's and a few enterprise customers.

> In the future all of Dropbox's revenue will most likely come from SMB's and a few enterprise customers.

If they're smart, it will be. They're just simply not going to make money otherwise. Get users on board for free, create a nice product to use that feels familiar, now tell them to get their bosses to let you use it for work.

They've been running that model from the outset, I don't see this as being a huge headache for them.

> the cost for storage is infinite and free

If thats so then it will also be cheap for them to give users the same.

I still think dropbox has a good product and will continue to iterate just fine. The product is all in the implementation, its not storage. Storage is the one and only feature of dropboxes app and sharability.

(disclaimer: stopped using dropbox when they had that major security flaw years ago)

Re: Dropbox for Gmail

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? Tell me how Dropbox is doing in 5 years from now after the cost for storage is infinite and free. Gmail already has google drive integration. Dropbox could've made this chrome plugin years ago. In the future all of Dropbox's revenue will most likely come from SMB's and a few enterprise customers.

"5 years from now after the cost for storage is infinite and free" Stuff like this strikes me as a bit sclerotic and shortsighted. Sort of the techno-utopian flip side of the Malthusians of the 70s[1] arguing that food will run out on Earth. The direction of the cost of storage (down) is predictable. But human behavior is not. And the impact of future innovation on human behavior is also not predictable. That's why o…

> When we're filming 1 TB/s holograms of our kids playing baseball, Dropbox's free 500 PB tier just isn't going to cut it!

I agree, this is a kind of stupid mistake people keep making given that everything around us proves an opposite point - that resource usage always rises up to the limits. We will invent new ways to waste^H^H^H^H^Huse storage, just like we invented new ways to use up surplus bandwidth (video streaming) or electricity (well, everything now). Random potential use - with petabyte disks it starts to make sense to run full-HD surveillance all the time. Or to have even more bloated web frameworks that download half of the Internet as their dependencies.

Re: Dropbox for Gmail

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Meh, we've supported attach from Dropbox natively at FastMail for ages. http://blog.fastmail.com/2013/04/09/dropbox-integration-now-...

This is a big deal since it is Dropbox themselves providing more seamless integration into the actual Gmail web experience. Impact is not just innovation but the scale in which it's adopted.

Re: Dropbox for Gmail

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? Tell me how Dropbox is doing in 5 years from now after the cost for storage is infinite and free. Gmail already has google drive integration. Dropbox could've made this chrome plugin years ago. In the future all of Dropbox's revenue will most likely come from SMB's and a few enterprise customers.

"5 years from now after the cost for storage is infinite and free" Stuff like this strikes me as a bit sclerotic and shortsighted. Sort of the techno-utopian flip side of the Malthusians of the 70s[1] arguing that food will run out on Earth. The direction of the cost of storage (down) is predictable. But human behavior is not. And the impact of future innovation on human behavior is also not predictable. That's why o…

It has an air of truth. Dropbox is bar none the best sync client. Almost unbelievably so.

But they were in 2010 too. And if you time travelled from 2010 to 2015, you wouldn't really notice anything materially different between Dropbox then and now.

Re: Dropbox for Gmail

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There's a good reason why Microsoft partnered up with Dropbox. It's exactly because storage is a feature, not a product. It's great for Google or MS if the storage is not provided by them as in the long run, it looks like it's going to have zero margins. If you subscribe for Office365, then it's good for MS if they don't need to subsidize your storage. Same is true for Google. Joel's article comes into the mind: comm…

> a feature, not a productive That line was so incisive when I first heard it in 2011 that it's stuck with me ever since: http://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriabarret/2011/10/18/dropbo... Edit: Hey guys, it's the only primary source I could find citing Drew Houston's conversation with Steve Jobs, wherein Steve Jobs stated that Dropbox was a feature, and not a product.

> [Drew Houston] reverse-engineered Apple’s file system so that his startup’s logo, an unfolding box, appeared elegantly tucked inside. Not even an Apple SWAT team had been able to do that.

With "Not Even Wrong" incoherent nonsense like that, Forbes doesn't belong on HN.

Re: Dropbox for Gmail

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a feature, not a productive That line was so incisive when I first heard it in 2011 that it's stuck with me ever since: http://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriabarret/2011/10/18/dropbo... Edit: Hey guys, it's the only primary source I could find citing Drew Houston's conversation with Steve Jobs, wherein Steve Jobs stated that Dropbox was a feature, and not a product.

> [Drew Houston] reverse-engineered Apple’s file system so that his startup’s logo, an unfolding box, appeared elegantly tucked inside. Not even an Apple SWAT team had been able to do that. With "Not Even Wrong" incoherent nonsense like that, Forbes doesn't belong on HN.

Sure, but it was the only primary source I could find for Drew Houston recounting his conversation with Steve Jobs. Most all the other coverage at the time was blogspam.
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