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The curious pricing of the 27" iMac

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Re: The curious pricing of the 27" iMac

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Post by jfager »

vdm wrote: post #15
yangyang wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not wishing to get into an argument or stray off-topic too far, but Emacs (Carbon Emacs, at least), works absolutely fine on Mac OS. I've had no problems with it, and I use lots of extra libraries.

I agree, if you're on 10.6 and you value your time, just use Carbon Emacs and stay away from Cocoa Emacs until more than 2 people start committing regularly. It's old but it Just Works. http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=emacs.git;a=history;f=...

Cocoa Emacs works great for me, I've never had a problem with it.

Re: The curious pricing of the 27" iMac

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Post by mgrouchy »

jrockway wrote: post #18
ubernostrum wrote: post #16

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Or run Emacs the way it was meant to be used: in a terminal window. I've been doing that for, oh, about a decade now and haven't seen much cause to switch.

So you use OS X for the nice UI and yet you are willing to use Emacs with an inferior UI? No thanks. I will stick to Linux.

I use an in-terminal editor all the time on OSX, what I like about OSX is that I get the Sexy UI with a lot of the things I have come to love in Linux(at least in a terminal, where I spend much of my time anyway)

Re: The curious pricing of the 27" iMac

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Post by scotty79 »

jawngee wrote: post #21
jrockway wrote: post #9

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No, but OS X does not work for me. It powers a computer under my TV that I use for watching movies, but it doesn't even do well for that task. (OSX's VLC often crashes, NicePlayer can't play partial AVI files, the built-in DVD player doesn't let you skip the ads at the beginning, etc.) For development, I could never use OS X. I rarely use the mouse, and I need a package manager for installing random libraries. I trie…

Why would your eyebrow raise a bit when you hear a developer say they use any particular OS? What do you gain by having such rigors? Why do you assume your opinion is absolute? (Which is must be for you to cock an eyebrow in what I'm assuming is disgust or mistrust). What do you do when someone tells you they develop on Windows? I'm imagining a groin pull, or something of that magnitude.

Maybe it's just involuntary reflex.

I met someone who said he works as admin and complained he can't find a job in the town he lives (he commutes more than 4 hours a day). I couldn't understand that, but later in conversation I learned that he's a windows admin. Then I had the eyebrow rising involuntary reflex and everything became clear to me. Windows admin skills are kinda useless in town where most companies can't afford to use MS solutions where good open source alternatives exists, let alone employ many windows admins.

Re: The curious pricing of the 27" iMac

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Post by ubernostrum »

jrockway wrote: post #18
ubernostrum wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or run Emacs the way it was meant to be used: in a terminal window. I've been doing that for, oh, about a decade now and haven't seen much cause to switch.

So you use OS X for the nice UI and yet you are willing to use Emacs with an inferior UI? No thanks. I will stick to Linux.

I use OS X because I can keep my dev workflow while getting much nicer applications for everything else.

Re: The curious pricing of the 27" iMac

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Post by yangyang »

eru wrote: post #30
jrockway wrote: post #18

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So you use OS X for the nice UI and yet you are willing to use Emacs with an inferior UI? No thanks. I will stick to Linux.

There's also Aquamacs. Seems to work quite fine.

Indeed. But it's not like using Emacs on any other platform.

Re: The curious pricing of the 27" iMac

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Post by jbellis »

ubernostrum wrote: post #16
vdm wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, if you're on 10.6 and you value your time, just use Carbon Emacs and stay away from Cocoa Emacs until more than 2 people start committing regularly. It's old but it Just Works. http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=emacs.git;a=history;f=...

Or run Emacs the way it was meant to be used: in a terminal window. I've been doing that for, oh, about a decade now and haven't seen much cause to switch.

That's what I did when I used to us OS X. Then I realized, if I'm just using a terminal anyway, I might as well actually use linux and get a real package manager back.

(Edit: I do miss spotlight. But not as much as I missed apt+dpkg.)

Re: The curious pricing of the 27" iMac

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Post by NikkiA »

jbellis wrote: post #38

Great, a new resolution with even _less_ vertical pixels. I still miss 4:3. Much better for programming.

I disagree, I use emacs with vertical splits (ie 1|2|3 layout) and 16:10 and 16:9 is great for that, also it means that spreading over onto the second (16:10) monitor isn't a change in layout policy.

I could never go back to 4:3 layout for programming, as I discovered last year when one of my 16:10s died and I had to use an old 4:3 I had laying around.

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