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Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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Post by donkeyd »

saiya-jin wrote: post #56

How many of you folks have found a long lasting, good quality date via Tinder? Serious question, no pun intended. For me, albeit using it for only cca 6 months, it was useless. Same for people around me. Yes, I got tons of likes, many conversations, a few dates that could be more if wanted, but women available via this were mostly... uninteresting. I am a bit picky (I am quite sporty type, and silicone beauties whose…

"But it cannot be done from couch, can it :)"

Or from work.

For some people, between work and other responsibilities there isn't much time to meet women in bars. Colleague of mine has pretty much no time left after work and school, he met his girlfriend through Tinder.

A friend of mine is a boatsman who's 3 months on, 3 months off. Finding a girl, dating and building a relationship is hard in 3 months. He used Tinder to find dates for when he came back home. He's now in a relationship with one of them.

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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Post by solve »

You should try shuffling around this pipeline a bit. Instead of:

See face -> Score face -> Yes them only if score is good

Try:

See face -> Yes to all -> Score the faces of people who Yes you back

Also would be really interesting to create multiple Tinder profiles with different pictures, and see the beauty score distributions of people who Yes'ed each different picture.

That would be a very nice, automatable dating A/B testing experiment.

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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Post by Udo »

marvin wrote: post #53
Udo wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The standard perception is that women are scarce and men are dime-a-dozen. I strongly suspect this might be true even in the gay dating scene (maybe someone qualified might weigh in on this hunch). Like in many social conventions, this scheme kind-of works as long as you subscribe to it. Men are supposed to be undiscerning, women are supposed to reject people like it's a bodily function. As long as you fall within th…

I think my comment came across as saying something other than what I intended (-4 at the moment). What I mean by "shitty gender stereotypes" is that, as you say, everyone is expected to conform to this model (guys and women alike). Under this stereotypical model, the pace is dictated by the women, which is why I singled this out - but of course it's a two-way evolution of behavior. "Kind-of-works as long as you subsc…

> but I think everyone's opportunities are diminished by this

I share your frustration, but I've also become very cynical about this. If people didn't want it this way, they wouldn't do it. It seems to me in my social circle, partners are chosen first and foremost for the function they perform.

"I needed a full-time mother for my children" "I didn't want to be alone anymore" "I felt time was running out" "I wanted a man with more status" "I wanted someone who's more down to earth" "I wanted someone to be there when I get home from work" "I wanted better sex" "I wanted someone who looks up to me". Almost everyone I know can and does distill their relationship into one of those sentences. You might think it's bleak, but people think nothing of it apparently.

So I came to the conclusion that my ideal, to hook up with people who are interesting and whom you can love for who they are, this ideal practically doesn't exist in the wild. And if we're indeed mostly choosing partners for their function, I don't see how any opportunities are diminished by playing arbitrary (and sometimes inhumane) games. I may not like it, I will certainly not participate in it, but it seems to work out for pretty much everyone.

This is only marginally related, but when my cat died, do you know what the most frequent first response of friends and family was? It wasn't "oh, so sorry, I know you loved her very much", or even "so what, it's just a cat", though both ends of the spectrum were certainly present. No, the most common reaction was: "are you getting a new one?"

To most people, it's all about function.

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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Post by saiya-jin »

donkeyd wrote: post #61
saiya-jin wrote: post #56

How many of you folks have found a long lasting, good quality date via Tinder? Serious question, no pun intended. For me, albeit using it for only cca 6 months, it was useless. Same for people around me. Yes, I got tons of likes, many conversations, a few dates that could be more if wanted, but women available via this were mostly... uninteresting. I am a bit picky (I am quite sporty type, and silicone beauties whose…

"But it cannot be done from couch, can it :)" Or from work. For some people, between work and other responsibilities there isn't much time to meet women in bars. Colleague of mine has pretty much no time left after work and school, he met his girlfriend through Tinder. A friend of mine is a boatsman who's 3 months on, 3 months off. Finding a girl, dating and building a relationship is hard in 3 months. He used Tinder…

those are some good examples and make sense, thanx!

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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Post by pachydermic »

djloche wrote: post #15

Automate the matching, then the conversations, then the meet-up schedule. TinderPro could be a paid service built on top that has you swipe left/right for x pictures and then takes it from there and does all the rest of the legwork. You pay $$ per month and based on your settings, it schedules dates for you (based on openings on your linked calendar app).

Then OpenTable an automatic reservation service, Yelp an automatic review service, Amazon Prime adds an automatic gifting service and finally a way to produce children just by sending in some sample DNA. Perfect efficiency!

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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Post by junto »

donkeyd wrote: post #44

Tinder should start using Eigenfaces to give people an estimate of the chance of finding a match when they sign up. You know, to manage expectations. "With your face and your standards you have a 1% chance to find a match. Please lower your standards or improve your face."

"improve your face". See South Korea plastic surgery stats: http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2012/04/daily-c...

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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Post by omaranto »

All were in agreement that it is not creepy, though some felt it was borderline.

I wonder how much of the feeling that this was not creepy came from the fact that he wrote the code himself. To me these two sounds pretty different:

"I came up with an algorithm that attempts to choose people and starts conversations the same way I would."

"I'm using an app I found that chooses people and starts conversations for me."

Come to think of it, neither sounds exactly creepy to me. The first sounds awkward but the second just sounds lazy... My point is that there is a difference between writing the code yourself and just using it.

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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Post by metontinder »

saiya-jin wrote: post #56

How many of you folks have found a long lasting, good quality date via Tinder? Serious question, no pun intended. For me, albeit using it for only cca 6 months, it was useless. Same for people around me. Yes, I got tons of likes, many conversations, a few dates that could be more if wanted, but women available via this were mostly... uninteresting. I am a bit picky (I am quite sporty type, and silicone beauties whose…

I met my girlfriend on Tinder. We've been dating for 6 months now, and barring any future disaster in the next 5-10 years, will probably get married eventually. And I say this as someone who has dated many, many women, many of which were through Tinder.

Just because someone is on Tinder doesn't automatically make them a "silicone beauty" with a vapid personality. People are people, and perhaps the problem is that you're immediately judgmental, especially when Tinder's "about me" section is what, 2 lines long? If you'd tried meeting someone in person, you may have been surprised.

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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Post by draugadrotten »

omaranto wrote: post #68

All were in agreement that it is not creepy, though some felt it was borderline. I wonder how much of the feeling that this was not creepy came from the fact that he wrote the code himself. To me these two sounds pretty different: "I came up with an algorithm that attempts to choose people and starts conversations the same way I would." "I'm using an app I found that chooses people and starts conversations for me." C…

All were in agreement that it is not creepy, though some felt it was borderline.

If I was sitting face to face with a creepy guy I would also not challenge him that his actions are creepy. I would just do anything to calm him down, then leave at first opportunity.

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