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Silver: A free implementation of Swift for .NET, Java, Android, and Cocoa

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Re: Silver: A free implementation of Swift for .NET, Java, Android, and Cocoa

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Apple needs to buy this company in 3, 2, 1... This is an ideal start to countering the concepts from Xamarin out of the .net camp and I would love to see them build up some form of XAML-like UI tech and tooling for x-plat UI dev so you could push the envelope on code-reuse. That would take a big dump of capital. It would also make for a push in the market for this style of x-plat dev. If you can get to the major and…

What possible reason would Apple have to buy this company?

Re: Silver: A free implementation of Swift for .NET, Java, Android, and Cocoa

#12

Cool! But, is it possible that this violates Apple's TOS or any legal limitation on use of the Swift language? I remember there being a lot of heated discussion about making Swift officially open source back when it was announced, but I don't recall ever hearing anyone suggest a community project to make an OSS compiler for it. This is most interesting, but I'd love to know that Apple would be okay with this, or woul…

Programming languages cannot be copyrighted. It doesn't look like they've reimplemented any Apple APIs, so there wouldn't appear to be any room for an Oracle-style lawsuit claiming that standard library code was copied.

I don't know what the trademark situation might be, though.

Re: Silver: A free implementation of Swift for .NET, Java, Android, and Cocoa

#13

Genuinely curious. Why Swift for multi-platform rather than C#, Clojure, JavaScript, or ?

Swift is statically typed, so it doesn't really compete with JS or Clojure. The company already has a C# implementation for sale.

Also, Swift was designed to compile to native code, unlike any of the other three languages.

Re: Silver: A free implementation of Swift for .NET, Java, Android, and Cocoa

#14
post #4

They should make it 100% free for students. Once they graduate and enter the workforce they will recommend this tool to employers.

I believe it's free for everyone. > RemObjects Silver is absolutely free of charge to use, both during the current beta period, and once we release the shipping version.

Silver itself might be free, but I think only if you bought the compiler already,

http://elementscompiler.com/elements/pricing.aspx

Re: Silver: A free implementation of Swift for .NET, Java, Android, and Cocoa

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post #7

Apple needs to buy this company in 3, 2, 1... This is an ideal start to countering the concepts from Xamarin out of the .net camp and I would love to see them build up some form of XAML-like UI tech and tooling for x-plat UI dev so you could push the envelope on code-reuse. That would take a big dump of capital. It would also make for a push in the market for this style of x-plat dev. If you can get to the major and…

I don't think apple wants to push for cross platform development. Looking at the last decades I would sustain the opposite idea, they are trying to just build tools who can work only on their own ecosystem

Re: Silver: A free implementation of Swift for .NET, Java, Android, and Cocoa

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post #7

Apple needs to buy this company in 3, 2, 1... This is an ideal start to countering the concepts from Xamarin out of the .net camp and I would love to see them build up some form of XAML-like UI tech and tooling for x-plat UI dev so you could push the envelope on code-reuse. That would take a big dump of capital. It would also make for a push in the market for this style of x-plat dev. If you can get to the major and…

I don't think Apple would like to support other platforms.

Re: Silver: A free implementation of Swift for .NET, Java, Android, and Cocoa

#18
post #7

Apple needs to buy this company in 3, 2, 1... This is an ideal start to countering the concepts from Xamarin out of the .net camp and I would love to see them build up some form of XAML-like UI tech and tooling for x-plat UI dev so you could push the envelope on code-reuse. That would take a big dump of capital. It would also make for a push in the market for this style of x-plat dev. If you can get to the major and…

I suspect if Apple wants Swift to target other platforms they'll use their own compiler.

Re: Silver: A free implementation of Swift for .NET, Java, Android, and Cocoa

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post #14
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe it's free for everyone. > RemObjects Silver is absolutely free of charge to use, both during the current beta period, and once we release the shipping version.

Silver itself might be free, but I think only if you bought the compiler already, http://elementscompiler.com/elements/pricing.aspx

> Silver itself might be free, but I think only if you bought the compiler already,

so it isn't free software at all.

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