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Re: Show HN: Watch People Code

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Post by eatitraw »

rottyguy wrote: post #45

Side question: I'd like to stream some audio content to a few 1000 people (24/7) and wondered if anyone knew (back of the envelope) what the cost model for this would look like? Assuming it's just bandwidth unless I go p2p... Just trying to understand the current lay of the land as I remember the youtube guys were paying $$$/mo for bandwidth when they first started. Thanks.

> Side question: I'd like to stream some audio content to a few 1000 people (24/7)

Hm... If you don't want to build your own streaming infrastructure, then it looks like you can have a 24/7 youtube live stream: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2853700?hl=en

"End times are not needed for 24/7 streams."

I guess youtube isn't very suitable for audio, but maybe it is an option for you.

Re: Show HN: Watch People Code

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Post by eatitraw »

s9w wrote: post #34
neovi wrote: post #32

Would it be better performance wise to get the Twitch.tv/YouTube/etc. summary of what they're showing and present that first, and if you're interested to click on the summary then you can load the video? Loading all of those videos at once is pretty heavy, at least for my mbp.

Yeah this is quite a problem - I'm puzzled how there aren't more comments on this. This page brought my PC almost to a complete halt for 20 seconds or so. On newest FF and Chrome!

Sorry about that, we were probably having some issues with twitch streams: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9018638

Re: Show HN: Watch People Code

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Post by eatitraw »

neovi wrote: post #32

Would it be better performance wise to get the Twitch.tv/YouTube/etc. summary of what they're showing and present that first, and if you're interested to click on the summary then you can load the video? Loading all of those videos at once is pretty heavy, at least for my mbp.

Yes, definitely, we'll add support for this.

(Also, it is very likely that we were having issues: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9018638 , I guess loading players for 5-10 streams shouldn't hurt that bad)

Re: Show HN: Watch People Code

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Post by eatitraw »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #44
eatitraw wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What stream were/are you watching? Also, what is your OS/browser? I checked "Instruction Set Development - Part 5" and there is full screen button(Mac OS X, chrome/firefox).

Just clicked: "Building a Search Engine -- Season 2 episode 1" and no full screen option. I'm on Safari on OS X 10.10.3

Thank you! I'm going to investigate this. I have OS X(although 10.10.1), but I'll I can update my Mac OS X'.

I hope there is a way to force youtube to have full screen option.

Re: Show HN: Watch People Code

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Post by nitrogen »

rottyguy wrote: post #45

Side question: I'd like to stream some audio content to a few 1000 people (24/7) and wondered if anyone knew (back of the envelope) what the cost model for this would look like? Assuming it's just bandwidth unless I go p2p... Just trying to understand the current lay of the land as I remember the youtube guys were paying $$$/mo for bandwidth when they first started. Thanks.

If you don't stream video, you can use something designed for audio streaming like Icecast[0]. Then your bandwidth per month is approximately users×bitrate×60×60×24×30/8/1000000000. For 1000 people at 128kbit/s, that would be 41.472GB/mo, which you could pay for with $5.

[0] http://www.icecast.org/

Re: Show HN: Watch People Code

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Post by eatitraw »

nsgi wrote: post #57

Apparently it's possible to embed a HTML5 Twitch player instead of Flash. Would it be possible to use this? http://discuss.dev.twitch.tv/t/html5-embedded-player/150/3

Thanks! This is interesting, although it looks like there is/was an issue with autoplay attribute. I'm going to test this tomorrow.

Re: Show HN: Watch People Code

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Post by nitrogen »

zaroth wrote: post #20
eatitraw wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There seem to be legal problems with them in Germany or is it some European law and other countries are also blocked? It is a stupid law in Germany. :( https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/youtube/qLbjw... "Because of the German law (RStV), you must have a broadcast licence from the media authorities when you make a live stream that can reach more than 500 people at the same time. Not getting one would re…

The question in that thread is a good one, and unfortunately not actually answered. What defines 'live stream'? Obviously basic sharing of non-commercial recordings cannot require a license.

Obviously basic sharing of non-commercial recordings cannot require a license.

I seem to recall reading that the German audio royalties law forced streams to pay royalties to the industry association (RIAA equivalent) even for creative commons music. I could be misremembering or misinterpreting, so if someone could provide an up-to-date reference it would be appreciated.

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