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AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Re: AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Post by abrkn »

kalleboo wrote: post #36
buro9 wrote: post #11

Great, I've been looking for an ethernet cable, I recently purchased a subwoofer cable for only £9,049 ( http://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk/product/8401/audioquest-w... ) and I was worried that I wasn't getting the best out of the sound as the cables earlier in the system weren't at this quality. Edit: just found a £2,199 mp3 player: http://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk/product/8288/astell-amp-k...

With all those high-quality components, make sure you have an $8,000 power cable to match http://www.coconut-audio.com/propower32mm.html

I don't feel like this power cable is expressive enough. Definitely does not bring out all the subtle nuances of Beyonce's "Single Ladies".

Re: AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Post by z-e-r-o »

bsaul wrote: post #28

I onced interviewed for a job at a software company developping virtual instruments plug-ins. At some point in the interview, the guy told me this great story : "We made some test once, and we changed the skin of the software, to a new color. Every people said the software sounded better with that new skin. Yet we changed absolutely nothing except the color." I'm still wondering if some graphical configuration ( such…

While I totally agree with the moral of this story, I'd like to point some reasons why the visuals of a software might interfere with audio:

1. just check this website: http://thume.ca/screentunes/ there is a large chance that your computer videocard and/or LCD will make a noise on that page

2. when the videocard makes such a noise, it can interfere with the PSU and thus affect the soundcard as well.

3. Thus, it's actually possible that changing a "high-frequency stripy" interface to a solid color will lower the noise-floor on the sound-card a bit.

Re: AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Post by icebraining »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #82
tormeh wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. Fashion and luxury is crazy. Sales may increase as you increase the price. This video explains the Swedish concept of "vasking", essentially throwing expensive liquids down the drain to demonstrate how little their price tags matter to you: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uhEpMJ3n_wU (it's also hilarious) Making stuff that people use exclusively to show off is such a great business that the only reason everyone's…

In a society with ridiculous and increasing inequality, you make a fortune by investing in what the ultra-rich and the very poor will buy.

How does that fit with Apple rolling in cash?

Re: AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Post by rdale »

fennecfoxen wrote: post #85
rdale wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't mean that the cables or other equipment differences, can change the 'beats per minute' of a music track. If the bass is reproduced poorly and sounds 'woolly' it will subjectively mess up the timing of the bass playing with respect to the rest of the music, as though the bass player is less skilful. Whereas listening to the same track with equipment that has tight, clear and dynamic bass can make the music…

> If the bass is reproduced poorly ... Yeah, sure. But most of these comments are about cables carrying digital signals, a class of devices which only have two real operating modes: "working perfectly" and "catastrophic failure". Instead of respecting the principles of the physics and information encoding associated with this layout, though, we see outlandish claims of frequencies traveling at different speeds and da…

With digital audio going to a DAC even with cheap cables, the '1's and '0's should be arriving OK and will be in "working perfectly" mode. You have to hope that is the case with USB audio as there is no error checking.

But when bits arrive is very important in audio, and whether or not the devices and cables in the chain before the DAC have introduced noise on the ground plane is also considered very important by some.

I can't see how an ethernet cable can affect timing, as the packets with the digital signal might even arrive out of order. The earthing of the ethernet cable might influence how much noise is introduced the ground plane though. It might explain why the Audioquest cables are directional, if their earthing arrangement is directional perhaps.

Re: AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Post by jkot »

z-e-r-o wrote: post #93
bsaul wrote: post #28

I onced interviewed for a job at a software company developping virtual instruments plug-ins. At some point in the interview, the guy told me this great story : "We made some test once, and we changed the skin of the software, to a new color. Every people said the software sounded better with that new skin. Yet we changed absolutely nothing except the color." I'm still wondering if some graphical configuration ( such…

While I totally agree with the moral of this story, I'd like to point some reasons why the visuals of a software might interfere with audio: 1. just check this website: http://thume.ca/screentunes/ there is a large chance that your computer videocard and/or LCD will make a noise on that page 2. when the videocard makes such a noise, it can interfere with the PSU and thus affect the soundcard as well. 3. Thus, it's ac…

I can confirm that. On most computers I could tell what is happening on screen just by listening. Scrolling, video playback, task switching all makes different noises. I have decent headphones and amplifier.

Re: AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Post by kabdib »

rdale wrote: post #95
fennecfoxen wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the bass is reproduced poorly ... Yeah, sure. But most of these comments are about cables carrying digital signals, a class of devices which only have two real operating modes: "working perfectly" and "catastrophic failure". Instead of respecting the principles of the physics and information encoding associated with this layout, though, we see outlandish claims of frequencies traveling at different speeds and da…

With digital audio going to a DAC even with cheap cables, the '1's and '0's should be arriving OK and will be in "working perfectly" mode. You have to hope that is the case with USB audio as there is no error checking. But when bits arrive is very important in audio, and whether or not the devices and cables in the chain before the DAC have introduced noise on the ground plane is also considered very important by som…

USB has error checking (there are checksums on every USB packet).

Isochronous USB has no error recovery (so if that packet arrives with a mangled checksum, you have a data dropout).

However, cables are the least of your worries; it's the driver stack (USB, ethernet, whatever) and the audio software feeding it that are the main sources of error. Unfortunately for Monster (et al) it is far harder for them to sell a $5,000 piece of software that does nothing than it is for them to sell a $5K piece of snake-oil-class hardware; the software is objectively analyzable without expensive tools, for instance.

Re: AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Post by gcommer »

jkot wrote: post #96
z-e-r-o wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I totally agree with the moral of this story, I'd like to point some reasons why the visuals of a software might interfere with audio: 1. just check this website: http://thume.ca/screentunes/ there is a large chance that your computer videocard and/or LCD will make a noise on that page 2. when the videocard makes such a noise, it can interfere with the PSU and thus affect the soundcard as well. 3. Thus, it's ac…

I can confirm that. On most computers I could tell what is happening on screen just by listening. Scrolling, video playback, task switching all makes different noises. I have decent headphones and amplifier.

Any external DAC will eliminate this for you.
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