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AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Re: AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Post by glesica »

tormeh wrote: post #22
surreal wrote: post #6

Without commenting on whether the product is worth the price (I don't know enough about HiFi quality): There is a bell curve of purchasing mentality - from a minority who buy solely based on what's cheapest, through varying degrees of cost/benefit tradeoff, through to a minority who will tend toward whatever is most expensive. It often pays to offer something to that latter group.

This. Fashion and luxury is crazy. Sales may increase as you increase the price. This video explains the Swedish concept of "vasking", essentially throwing expensive liquids down the drain to demonstrate how little their price tags matter to you: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uhEpMJ3n_wU (it's also hilarious) Making stuff that people use exclusively to show off is such a great business that the only reason everyone's…

> the only reason everyone's not trying to do it must be some misguided faith in humanity.

Or an inability to keep a straight face through an entire sales pitch. I doubt the effect works if the sales person or market copy actively mocks the buyers' intelligence.

Re: AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Post by tilt_error »

This is hilarious. You are sold the idea of a "pipe", through which something flows -- of course, having a "smoother" directional pipe would be better! But then again, we are talking about electrons -- alternating currents -- flowing one way _and_ the other for a short while. Having knowledge about how currents move in leads, typically on the surface of the lead, explains why quality cables consists of a multitude of small leads.

On these leads, electrons are flowing a little bit in one direction and then as the polarity of the source shifts, a little bit in the other. The whole idea of having a "direction" in a cable is just...

At one time we really had analog equipment "all the way down", so it kind of made sense to minimise distortion and loss in every individual link. Nowadays, we use digital systems where the music information is conveyed as "symbols". In this realm, a lot of the concepts from analog systems (or even the "pipe" system mentioned above) just makes no sense.

It is true that the digital information is still run over analog cables, in this case I assume we are talking about an Ethernet layer, but it has very little resemblance with the idea of a loudspeaker cable as information is packaged and translated in various ways before actually appearing on the cable.

Do you remember that funny marker pen that you could use to paint the edge of CDs to minimise effects of laser light running back and forth in the CD. That was a try att connecting a common understanding of the turntable with the new CD medium -- the idea of having a pickup that could be disturbed. I wonder onto what common understanding the idea of these cables are trying to connect, the water pipe idea is visual and easily taken but jumps a generation or two of reality.

I choose to see this as a taxation of... less gifted but wondrously more wealthy people. Actually a tax that kind of makes sense.

Re: AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Post by b3tta »

q_no wrote: post #50
huhtenberg wrote: post #44

Earlier on - the classics of A/B testing in "Monster cables vs Coat hangers" http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/threads/speakers-when-i... Scroll to the 2nd from the bottom paragraph staring with "We gathered up ...".

I'm not a native english speaker, what are "coat hangers"?

The thing where you "hang" your "coat" on: https://www.google.com/search?q=coat+hanger&tbm=isch

Re: AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Post by q_no »

b3tta wrote: post #54
q_no wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a native english speaker, what are "coat hangers"?

The thing where you "hang" your "coat" on: https://www.google.com/search?q=coat+hanger&tbm=isch

LOL, and I was wondering what kind of cable it was supposed to be, of course I know coat hangers but didn't get it in the context. Thank you! :)

Re: AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Post by gruntled »

tormeh wrote: post #22
surreal wrote: post #6

Without commenting on whether the product is worth the price (I don't know enough about HiFi quality): There is a bell curve of purchasing mentality - from a minority who buy solely based on what's cheapest, through varying degrees of cost/benefit tradeoff, through to a minority who will tend toward whatever is most expensive. It often pays to offer something to that latter group.

This. Fashion and luxury is crazy. Sales may increase as you increase the price. This video explains the Swedish concept of "vasking", essentially throwing expensive liquids down the drain to demonstrate how little their price tags matter to you: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uhEpMJ3n_wU (it's also hilarious) Making stuff that people use exclusively to show off is such a great business that the only reason everyone's…

Luxury isn't necessarily crazy, it can be rational economic signaling: http://www.joshuakennon.com/mental-model-veblen-goods/

Re: AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Post by Udik »

tormeh wrote: post #22
surreal wrote: post #6

Without commenting on whether the product is worth the price (I don't know enough about HiFi quality): There is a bell curve of purchasing mentality - from a minority who buy solely based on what's cheapest, through varying degrees of cost/benefit tradeoff, through to a minority who will tend toward whatever is most expensive. It often pays to offer something to that latter group.

This. Fashion and luxury is crazy. Sales may increase as you increase the price. This video explains the Swedish concept of "vasking", essentially throwing expensive liquids down the drain to demonstrate how little their price tags matter to you: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uhEpMJ3n_wU (it's also hilarious) Making stuff that people use exclusively to show off is such a great business that the only reason everyone's…

>Making stuff that people use exclusively to show off is such a great business that the only reason everyone's not trying to do it must be some misguided faith in humanity.

This must also be the reason why this kind of manufacturing is prominent in Italy, where any faith in humanity is long gone.

Re: AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Post by nunull »

kalleboo wrote: post #36
buro9 wrote: post #11

Great, I've been looking for an ethernet cable, I recently purchased a subwoofer cable for only £9,049 ( http://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk/product/8401/audioquest-w... ) and I was worried that I wasn't getting the best out of the sound as the cables earlier in the system weren't at this quality. Edit: just found a £2,199 mp3 player: http://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk/product/8288/astell-amp-k...

With all those high-quality components, make sure you have an $8,000 power cable to match http://www.coconut-audio.com/propower32mm.html

Or the "MEGA SATA". http://www.coconut-audio.com/megasata.html

Re: AudioQuest Diamond RJ/E Ethernet Cable: £6899

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Post by njloof »

joshvm wrote: post #34
yk wrote: post #32

"Silver plated plugs" Can someone remind me of the electric properties of Silveroxide? ( Or do I need to hire someone who polishes the plugs before each track?)

That stuck out like a sore thumb for me - it's a £6000 cable and the connectors aren't gold plated? Perhaps that's reserved for a model up..

The silver oxide tells you when the cable is worn out and you need to buy a new one.
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