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Email Encryption Software Relies on One Guy, Who Is Going Broke

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Re: Email Encryption Software Relies on One Guy, Who Is Going Broke

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post #136

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I dont see a way to contact anyone there. Can they please add bitcoin?

"If you like to donate Bitcoins you may use the Wau Holland Stiftung account too." Link: https://www.wauland.de/en/donation.html#61

Looks like quite a few donations are coming through!

https://blockchain.info/address/12LKeo24XCzgz6ASSxcUa8BvUfzk...

Re: Email Encryption Software Relies on One Guy, Who Is Going Broke

#152
post #14

He's been voluntarily cheated. He should take a job, take care of himself (no one else will), and give gpg whatever time he has left, if he has the energy.

> He should take a job, take care of himself (no one else will), and give gpg whatever time he has left, if he has the energy. In your scenario, what will happen to GPG? The world just loses this essential asset?

> In your scenario, what will happen to GPG? The world just loses this essential asset?

It won't suddenly erase itself from all the world's computers. It'll still be there. It'll still work the same way it worked the day before.

Perhaps someone else will pick it up?

Re: Email Encryption Software Relies on One Guy, Who Is Going Broke

#153
post #14

He's been voluntarily cheated. He should take a job, take care of himself (no one else will), and give gpg whatever time he has left, if he has the energy.

> He should take a job, take care of himself (no one else will), and give gpg whatever time he has left, if he has the energy. In your scenario, what will happen to GPG? The world just loses this essential asset?

I think it is cruel, heartless and selfish to expect a poor man to work for the benefit of the world without benefit to himself. If it's done by free will it is awesome, but is astoundingly arrogant to expect someone to do it by default.

Re: Email Encryption Software Relies on One Guy, Who Is Going Broke

#154
post #109

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Those are some rather interesting documents, thanks! In 2013 FSF paid $ 689,239 in salaries and, astoundingly!, $ 48,995 in credit card fees.

FIY: That's 3.8% assuming everybody donated by credit card. Anybody got an idea why they pay so much?

2.9% is fairly standard with Stripe et. al., but fees from things like chargebacks could probably add up to another 1%.

Re: Email Encryption Software Relies on One Guy, Who Is Going Broke

#155

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There is a considerable portion of the open source community which views capitalizing on software as inherently immoral. As soon as Werner Koch started charging money for it, most people would switch to a free fork or distribute it on the black market to spite him.

I don't see this happening with FFTW or Qt. Apparently selling exceptions is fine? I can imagine a market for selling GPG exceptions. Also, I know some free games are sold on app stores. Wesnoth comes to mind. Have people come to spite the Wesnoth developers and put the same game on the app store without a fee?

You only have to look at any thread here about copyright or piracy to see indignation at the very idea of charging money. People believe that software being free (for every definition of free) is a fundamental human right, and part of the justification made for piracy is that no one has the right to profit from software, and the for-profit distribution models need to be disrupted and undermined.

You can list a couple of exceptions, sure. But I'll see you that and raise you all of The Pirate Bay.

Re: Email Encryption Software Relies on One Guy, Who Is Going Broke

#156
post #5

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I agree more would be better, but aren't there several now, such as the Free Software Foundation, the Software Freedom Conservancy, and the Apache Software Foundation?

If people like this are still falling through the cracks, clearly there aren't enough.

The problem with such organizations is their donations only go to affiliated projects. Mozilla donates to mozilla projecs, apache donates to apache projects, fsf donates to fsf projects and so on.

Relying donations from occasional news cannot be healthy for the project. I imagine that during the next week the project will be able to amass a significant amount of donations but whenever this article is forgotten, the cash inflow will trickle.

I kinda wish that such organizations could make patreon accounts. Or maybe a non-profit service with the same idea. The point is, it's hard to keep track of all the projects that need money and to manage such donations without blowing your budget.

I can think of a few projects that I rely on a daily basis: firefox, xfce, fsf, freedesktop, python, debian, openbsd, transmission torrent, the gnome foundation, vlc, and there is probably a lot more that I can't remember right now.

Re: Email Encryption Software Relies on One Guy, Who Is Going Broke

#157
this is precisely the question I asked here - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863782

This is frustrating - a lot of these projects dont get funded just because of one reason: discoverability. People dont know that these projects need funding. OpenSSH was another. No telling how many others.

Re: Email Encryption Software Relies on One Guy, Who Is Going Broke

#158
Meta-question, ideally aimed at Daniel if you're reading this, but not interesting enough to email you plus wondering what community members think:

Normally I'd be against comments like "donated" that add nothing else, and would downvote them for that. But in this case, does seeing lots of other people say they've donated make other readers more likely to donate themselves? If so, does that outweigh the negative of the page filling up with otherwise-pointless comments?

I've not downvoted any, but would be interested in any opinions as to whether or not you have/would downvote them and why.

Re: Email Encryption Software Relies on One Guy, Who Is Going Broke

#159
post #4

Calling GnuPG "email encryption software" really understates its importance. It's also used in countless applications to encrypt data at rest, and GPG signatures are used to secure the distribution of software. For instance, GPG is an essential part of the package managers of Debian, Ubuntu, and RedHat. Here is a link to the donation page: https://gnupg.org/donate/index.html

Shouldn't it be part of that Core Infrastructure Initiative project then?

Matthew Green, who sits on the CII's advisory board, tweeted:

"CII does what's beneficial to its members. Privacy tools aren't" [https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/56338899320386764...]

...which indicates to me that GnuPG wasn't sold properly. It's not just a "privacy tool" -- it's one of the ways that software (including OpenSSL) is securely distributed. I would guess that quite a few of the CII's members benefit from GnuPG and don't even realize it.

Re: Email Encryption Software Relies on One Guy, Who Is Going Broke

#160

I wonder sometimes if this is the legacy that RMS was thinking about. Sometimes, in my more cynical moments, it seems like we have somehow managed to trick a whole generation of programmers into giving "free stuff" to the world, enabling the creation of the very successful mega corporations which have then kept the value for themselves. Would it be impossible to create some sort of stipend program at FSF? After all t…

Free software means "free as in speech" not "free as in beer".
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