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Stop Complaining in February

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Re: Stop Complaining in February

#31
post #26

Has there been any research on this topic? About why we complain about what we cannot change and if it serves any purpose?

I enjoy complaining. It's one of my favorite hobbies. I don't know why everyone has to be so negative about it... People should just join in on the fun!

Re: Stop Complaining in February

#32
This is pretty great - not complaining is a virtue I really admire. I had a friend in college, he was an outdoorsy type, and did forest firefighting in the summers. When we went on long hikes, we'd all be griping towards the end about how cold it was, how tired we were, how we should have not forgotten to bring X Y and Z - except him. He'd just start singing or taking the lead, and then we'd realize that he's actually in the same situation as all of us, and he'd given one of his layers to someone or something. Not annoyingly chipper, but just not complaining and doing what is necessary.

What I noticed is that not griping not only drastically improves your mood, it also improves everyone else's mood.

There are two kinds of gripes - ones that can actually effect change, and ones that can't. The latter seems to be the useless majority of gripes for me. Especially self-pity complaints seem to be the most egregious.

Not complaining doesn't equate to being hard on yourself or being a rah-rah aggressive and stereotypically masculine human being. It's just that if you're in a situation, and you can't change anything, then complaining just makes you feel bad and makes the situation feel worse. It encourages you to put things off, to make them bigger and more difficult than they seem.

And if you actually can change the situation you're in, then power to you, but go ahead and do something about it rather than /just/ complaining. Or maybe complain /to/ someone who can and will change things.

Re: Stop Complaining in February

#33
post #12

What a load of crock. Venting about things I can't change keeps me sane. Screaming at the raging ocean.

For you maybe, for people around you, not really. Hearing constant complaints is such an energy drain.

Re: Stop Complaining in February

#34

I see a lot of people taking interest in this idea. For a more nuanced and holistic approach to "not worrying about things you cannot change," I would check out Stoicism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism The best intro book, in my opinion, is William B Irvine's "A Guide to the Good Life: The Ancient Art of Stoic Joy". The main problem I find with simply "Stop Complaining," is how do you do it? What should you an…

For people interested in Stoicism, I can recommend the book Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. There are a couple of very accessible English translations (the original text must be in Latin). The book is basically a collection of many thoughts that are roughly one sentence to a page long and self-contained. So you can read it any way you like, in any order. There are some really inspiring thoughts in the book, though some of them might be difficult to relate to since things have changed quite a bit in almost 2000 years.

Re: Stop Complaining in February

#35

I'm in! That said, I find it hard to hold on to a negative thought ("don't do X, don't think Y"), so I decided to apply the reverse: I'm going to be happy about the amazing things I have access to in February. I mean, think about it. Running water! Isn't that amazing ? And think about wifi on airplanes. In the air! Flying! Chatroulette on air! Even on economy class!

Great tip and I will be following it. Usually we overlook goods around us which is usually 90% by discussing bad which is 10% only.

Re: Stop Complaining in February

#37

I see a lot of people taking interest in this idea. For a more nuanced and holistic approach to "not worrying about things you cannot change," I would check out Stoicism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism The best intro book, in my opinion, is William B Irvine's "A Guide to the Good Life: The Ancient Art of Stoic Joy". The main problem I find with simply "Stop Complaining," is how do you do it? What should you an…

> The best intro book, in my opinion, is William B Irvine's "A Guide to the Good Life: The Ancient Art of Stoic Joy".

Some previous discussion on this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8716631

Re: Stop Complaining in February

#39
I did something like this once. I can't say as it made any difference, to be honest, and I can't really recommend it. This is what I wrote after the turn was done:

Finally, some of you may remember that late last year I pledged to disavow online negativity until the end of 2013. I would like to say I was successful in that, but in truth I did slip up on IRC a time or two, for which I apologized to those present. A promise is a promise though, and so I must confess that in the end, the experiment was kind of a failure. What I learned is that real life is not as simple as just trying to 'turn off' the negativity, and that shutting down the valve when the tank is already at pressure is not the best idea. Mostly what I've felt since I realized my self-imposed ban was over was relief. I've learned that expressing negative emotion is as important as expressing positive emotion, it's just a question of how, when, and to whom. So perhaps the real lesson is just learning a bit of self-control and understanding context, and the difference between healthy release and just meanness. Hopefully I know that a little better now. Time will tell.

Re: Stop Complaining in February

#40
post #10

The thing is, where do we draw the line in "things we cannot change"? Are we supposed to stop complaining about design decisions of some software? About corrupt politics? The noisy neighbour?

Here's some guidelines to know if you should complain: - If you heard someone else complaining about this, would it make you feel good? - Will anyone else care? - Does this need to be said? By me? Right now? - Is this complaint creating positive change? - Can I rephrase my complaint to address the issue positively? Ideally, none of the things you listed should be complained about. Just stating your annoyance at a sit…

Based on those guidelines, people wouldn't complain at all except few cases of complaining directly to the source of the subject at hand. It feels to me like something between promoting apathy and this: http://markmanson.net/not-giving-a-fuck
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