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Yahoo Homepage – Now Featuring Extra-Scammy Scams

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Re: Yahoo Homepage – Now Featuring Extra-Scammy Scams

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Post by DanBC »

> “[...]I ordered one bottle of Brain Storm Elite, entered my payment and shipping info, next thing I know, I have been charged $144 for another product “The Memory Plus”. I NEVER gave “MP” any CC information or anything, when I called BrainStorm about this, they say they are affiliated but do not have access to Memory Plus accounts, I asked how Memory Plus got my credit card information because the only website I was on was for BrainStorm. Big Surprise, someone else would have to get back to me on that. Filed report with BBB.”

How do these companies survive having their merchant accounts closed after all the inevitable chargebacks?

Re: Yahoo Homepage – Now Featuring Extra-Scammy Scams

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Post by antihero »

bambax wrote: post #24
dredmorbius wrote: post #18

99% of online advertisers give the rest a bad name. Not only is this why online advertising is ultimately doomed, but it's why we hugely and desperately and badly need to find another way of paying for content. The alternatives for the moment are gratis, patronage, "native advertising", and subscriptions. Few of these strike me as ultimately scalable. I've been a fan of Phil Hunt, of Pirate Party UK, and his broadban…

> 99% of online advertisers give the rest a bad name So true; remove "online" from the sentence above and it's even truer. > it's why we hugely and desperately and badly need to find another way of paying for content Not sure about that. Here are the ways I can think of we gain access to content: - by directly paying for it (books, movies, etc.) - by indirectly paying for it (ad supported newspapers articles and such…

What would be interesting is a sort of all-content-subscription - you pay X per month, and it's divvied up between the providers/owners of whatever you use. Kind of like a tax, but actually related to usage.

Would be very difficult to have the trust and integration required for it to work though.

Re: Yahoo Homepage – Now Featuring Extra-Scammy Scams

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Post by GregoryGrookett »

rimantas wrote: post #20
bad_user wrote: post #9

I was originally against ad-blockers, because it provides me with an incentive to look for alternatives and I also want to reward websites that don't do this shit. However, it's because of scams and malware pushed by means of ads that I started using ad-blockers myself and I recommend it to all my non-technical friends. It's also the reason for why on my Android I'm now using Firefox. For Google to not provide at lea…

I am thinking, maybe I should get an ad-blocker. Not tu reward the webistes, but stop punishing poor folks who buy ads and then waste money showing them to me, because I never click them…

I feel the same way and never click on these ads. It's a total waste of time in my opinion them showing them it actually makes me not want to use the product or service. But I really dont think the companies get charged for the ad unless someone actually clicks on the ad. It's called PPC Pay Per Click. Anyway ads stink get rid of them I say.

Re: Yahoo Homepage – Now Featuring Extra-Scammy Scams

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Post by coldcode »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #22
Fede_V wrote: post #21

This is great detective work, and hopefully Yahoo steps in and fixes this. Online advertising has become and more vicious - on all my computers, I run adblock/no script, etc, but on my phone, browsing sites like retractionwatch or theatlantic, I've been redirected to full page ads for subscription services where the automatic subscription button is about 1mm where the 'close window' button appears.

> and hopefully Yahoo steps in and fixes this. and Forbes, CNN, Discover Magazine, etcetera sue both the company for plagiarism, as well as copyright and trademark infringements. They should probably sue the advertising company behind it too, those organizations have the moral obligation IMO to ensure the quality and legitimacy of the companies that buy advertising with them.

All shell companies I bet.

Re: Yahoo Homepage – Now Featuring Extra-Scammy Scams

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Post by sixQuarks »

blumkvist wrote: post #2

>Do companies like Brainstorm Elite ever pay the price for wholesale fraud and the theft of brand identities? Yes, they do. The FTC takes them for every penny they got. At least the big ones. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/01/the-dark...

What a POS that kid is. He has the skills and ability to create a legitimate company, but decides to take the easy path (at least in the short term).

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Post by easytiger »

dredmorbius wrote: post #18

99% of online advertisers give the rest a bad name. Not only is this why online advertising is ultimately doomed, but it's why we hugely and desperately and badly need to find another way of paying for content. The alternatives for the moment are gratis, patronage, "native advertising", and subscriptions. Few of these strike me as ultimately scalable. I've been a fan of Phil Hunt, of Pirate Party UK, and his broadban…

> Not only is this why online advertising is ultimately doomed, but it's why we hugely and desperately and badly need to find another way of paying for content.

Another viable option is letting a lot of the content die. I'm sure we can all live without knowing that one neat trick that you won't believe.

In your proposal:

> ... constant challenge for any creative type is making a living.

Well perhaps if that's the case what you do is not valuable to anyone. Over time economic cycles destroy things that were once valuable. There used to be whole industries selling ice from icebergs in London. I bet they were rather upset when domestic refrigeration became popular.

Music as a physical medium is no longer very valuable due to a nexus of the proliferation of arbitrarily reproducible data systems and a decrease in the perception of value of non live performance music.

The suggestions of a broadband tax etc are insane and the work of lobbyists and other socially destructive parasites.

Re: Yahoo Homepage – Now Featuring Extra-Scammy Scams

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Post by im3w1l »

dredmorbius wrote: post #18

99% of online advertisers give the rest a bad name. Not only is this why online advertising is ultimately doomed, but it's why we hugely and desperately and badly need to find another way of paying for content. The alternatives for the moment are gratis, patronage, "native advertising", and subscriptions. Few of these strike me as ultimately scalable. I've been a fan of Phil Hunt, of Pirate Party UK, and his broadban…

I used to think a broadband tax was a good idea, but I now worry that it would give politicians too much leverage over content producers.

It is easy to see how they would try to ban porn, non-mainstream ideology and other inconvinient content from the system.

Re: Yahoo Homepage – Now Featuring Extra-Scammy Scams

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Post by [deleted] »

bad_user wrote: post #9

I was originally against ad-blockers, because it provides me with an incentive to look for alternatives and I also want to reward websites that don't do this shit. However, it's because of scams and malware pushed by means of ads that I started using ad-blockers myself and I recommend it to all my non-technical friends. It's also the reason for why on my Android I'm now using Firefox. For Google to not provide at lea…

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