This is great. Especially for the developing world where the Pi has great potential but people only really want to use and learn in a Windows environment.
Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2
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#22Awesome news to hear. But I am not sure how far it will be compatible with the low resources on a Raspberry Pi.
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#23It's nice to see Microsoft cares. OTOH part of the attraction of the RPi for me is that people freely share their knowledge, code and cool hacks. Adding a humongous blob of unmodifiable software doesn't really align with any of that. In the best case people will shun this, in the worst case it could harm the culture.
I'm fairly sure that most RPi users neither modify the OS that their device is running or even look at the source code. The community-led innovation mainly happens higher up the stack, and in the hardware add-on space, and I don't see how Windows on RPi would change that. Windows on RPi is unlikely to ever be mainstream, so anyone using Windows-specific features on software would have to accept that their code would…
Because Embrace, Extend, Extinguish is older than dirt. Microsoft had a long habit of adopting public standards, adding proprietary extensions, and then smothering the standard by making their extensions intentionally obtuse and hard to interoperate with. I don't honestly see how they could do such with the Pi, but I'm honestly not awful enough to see all the nasty possibilities.
From a different perspective: As someone who until recently lived in Washington, Microsoft's management stack hasn't changed. It is still a very Sales-driven organization, with very little leeway given to Engineering to drive things that are useful, interesting, or innovative. How this fits into a Microsoft sales plan, I don't see; It might be somebody's pet project based on their child's interest in a Pi (As was basically the origin of the Zune and Kinect; I know the sales guys who responsible for allowing those to be engineered). Regardless, I expect it to be a redheaded stepchild, because it's sales potential is not proven.
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#24Out of all of the exciting news coming from Redmond this past year, this has somehow taken the cake for me. In 2013, even suggesting Windows on Raspberry Pi could be a possibility would've gotten you laughed out of the room, and for it now to be actually happening made me take more than a few double-takes.
I dunno, Windows has always seemed to enjoy running on cheap hardware.
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#25Somewhat surprised that there are around 20 comments and all of the seem to be from more or less a consumer perspective. The Raspberry Pi is one of the few embedded devices with aspires to be used as a desktop computer and on top of that as a way to learn computers. Embedded systems is also one of the few threats to Windows, but this hasn't really materialized yet since most devices only comes with android drivers. All in all it's a great strategic move for Microsoft and confirms my suspicion that Linux is losing the second round of the desktop wars.
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#26IoT devices running Windows 10. So I guess my coffee machine will also have the blue screen of death (BSOD) now.
Jokes aside, strategic move by Microsoft. The new CEO has some interesting stuff in mind indeed. Can't wait for the build conference where they open the HoloLens dev tools.
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#27Could somebody explain how this is possible, given RAM and CPU constraints? Like, does W10 actually run with that small of a footprint it works on a Raspberry Pi 2?
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm fairly sure that most RPi users neither modify the OS that their device is running or even look at the source code. The community-led innovation mainly happens higher up the stack, and in the hardware add-on space, and I don't see how Windows on RPi would change that. Windows on RPi is unlikely to ever be mainstream, so anyone using Windows-specific features on software would have to accept that their code would…
Because Embrace, Extend, Extinguish is older than dirt. Microsoft had a long habit of adopting public standards, adding proprietary extensions, and then smothering the standard by making their extensions intentionally obtuse and hard to interoperate with. I don't honestly see how they could do such with the Pi, but I'm honestly not awful enough to see all the nasty possibilities. From a different perspective: As some…
> From a different perspective: As someone who until recently lived in Washington, Microsoft's management stack hasn't changed. It is still a very Sales-driven organization, with very little leeway given to Engineering to drive things that are useful, interesting, or innovative.
You say you lived in Washington, are you implying you were a Microsoft employee? Seems from everyone I'm hearing from that they've been making major structure changes for a while now and a lot of the old management has been shuffled or removed (especially with those huge rounds of layoffs) so I'm curious as to why I'm hearing something different from what you're saying.
Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2
#29I was waiting for a long time for something like that. Now I will be able to make a very cheap parents' pc
Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2
#30It's nice to see Microsoft cares. OTOH part of the attraction of the RPi for me is that people freely share their knowledge, code and cool hacks. Adding a humongous blob of unmodifiable software doesn't really align with any of that. In the best case people will shun this, in the worst case it could harm the culture.
I'm fairly sure that most RPi users neither modify the OS that their device is running or even look at the source code. The community-led innovation mainly happens higher up the stack, and in the hardware add-on space, and I don't see how Windows on RPi would change that. Windows on RPi is unlikely to ever be mainstream, so anyone using Windows-specific features on software would have to accept that their code would…
> Meta: Why all the anti-MS cynicism on the threads for this topic? Isn't it kind of old now?
I feel bad when I have the "anti-MS" feeling. I truly do; I feel like I'm being over-simplistic, I feel that I'm being prejudiced... Well, you get the point. However, you can't really say this is "kind of old". "Embrace, extend and extinguish" practices are recent, even considering the short "horizons" in IT. And, after the "Mobile-first, cloud-first" vision [1], you can't really blame people for finding these MS initiatives a lot like "hangin' with the cool kids" or "sounding hip".
[1] http://news.microsoft.com/2014/03/27/satya-nadella-mobile-fi...