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Why I hate Google, or some thoughts about “open” technologies

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Re: Why I hate Google, or some thoughts about “open” technologies

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Post by dmytrish » 

    the Internet and technology should be above politics.
- I am not sure about this, sometimes politics threatens the Internet itself. Putin clearly considers the Internet to be "a CIA project" and Russia is heading to its own walled network where you won't need Google technology anyway. Haven't Github and Youtube been blocked in Russia already? Even more, don't be surprised if one day you are arrested for mere fact of using Tor/i2p. So don't blame Google much, it's what Crimeans have chosen themselves: mirage of the "rich" and "mighty" state over freedom and democracy.

Re: Why I hate Google, or some thoughts about “open” technologies

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Post by hahainternet »

bumpcat wrote: post #9
krschultz wrote: post #5

Sanctions can be a bitch. But they're better than people shooting at each other. Sorry that you are on the receiving end of it. The Android documentation has always been a point of consternation for me. As far as I'm aware, it is not open source. It might be licensed as such, but I haven't been able to find a repo to clone that has all of the docs in it, or more importantly a place to submit back patches. You an open…

IMHO sanctions are never better than anything and are unfair by definition. You can compare them to antibiotic - destroying both good ones and bad ones. Majority of people do not want any sanctions, no matter what side they are on. It's the government and politicians that want it, not the people.

> IMHO sanctions are never better than anything and are unfair by definition. You can compare them to antibiotic - destroying both good ones and bad ones.

But antibiotics are better than most other options. That's why we use them.

> Majority of people do not want any sanctions, no matter what side they are on. It's the government and politicians that want it, not the people.

The people do not want war. Sanctions are a way of bringing pressure without threats of violence.

Re: Why I hate Google, or some thoughts about “open” technologies

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Post by angeldar »

amirouche wrote: post #6

Google is not OPEN technology. Tor is.

Sorry, maybe I am wrong with the terminology. But, the title on the Golang home page is "Go is an open source programming language that makes it easy to build simple, reliable, and efficient software."

And on the https://code.google.com/ I see "Project Hosting on Google Code provides a free collaborative development environment for open source projects.".

Re: Why I hate Google, or some thoughts about “open” technologies

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Post by angeldar »

sidcool wrote: post #10

Apple has done the same. It's not their call, they have to follow Government rules.

Yes, I anderstand that there is not much they can do. From my point of view - apple has always been from the proprietary technology. I do not know about the development for an iOS, and I am sure that Аpple has blocked developer accounts and the purchase of development tools - but at least I can get access to all documents, videos, and materials about Swift or Objective C and development directly from their website.

Re: Why I hate Google, or some thoughts about “open” technologies

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Post by dmytrish »

bumpcat wrote: post #13

If it's true, then this is so unfair that I literally wanna scream... Android, Golang, Angular.js, Chromium, are all open-source. Why the hell they are blocking access is beyond me. Are they really forced to do this???

They've only blocked access to documentation and their servers, it should be easy to mirror it somewhere else.

Re: Why I hate Google, or some thoughts about “open” technologies

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Post by bumpcat »

hahainternet wrote: post #12
bumpcat wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMHO sanctions are never better than anything and are unfair by definition. You can compare them to antibiotic - destroying both good ones and bad ones. Majority of people do not want any sanctions, no matter what side they are on. It's the government and politicians that want it, not the people.

> IMHO sanctions are never better than anything and are unfair by definition. You can compare them to antibiotic - destroying both good ones and bad ones. But antibiotics are better than most other options. That's why we use them. > Majority of people do not want any sanctions, no matter what side they are on. It's the government and politicians that want it, not the people. The people do not want war. Sanctions are…

People are free to do with their own bodies whatever they think is best. But in Crimea people are being punished because Obama or some other idiot thinks it's good to do so. I don't think it's fair that a group of corrupted politicians get to decide the fate of a nation literally on the other side of the planet.

Also preventing someone from accessing a public information or from doing business is already a form of violence :( I wouldn't call it a form of 'pressure'.

Re: Why I hate Google, or some thoughts about “open” technologies

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Post by angeldar »

pskittle wrote: post #8

I'm sorry you cant access udacity. use vpn or get hola (a free chrome plugin)

Thank you, I am not going to leave Udacity. Sad, but Chrome updates and plugins - are blocked for me too. I will think about vpn. Just hope the Udacity will not block me (=.

Re: Why I hate Google, or some thoughts about “open” technologies

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Post by rayiner »

To me, the bigger issue is the move to take things you control (your software on your own computers) to what you don't control (cloud services). Why should my ability to write a letter he dependent on what happens to some company in a different country?
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