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Why Every Movie Looks Sort of Orange and Blue

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Re: Why Every Movie Looks Sort of Orange and Blue

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Color theory is like a fractal. The closer you get the more detail there is. The Color Correction Handbook: Professional Techniques for Video and Cinema by Alexis Van Hurkman is a great book if you really want to geek out or are considering working in DI. Two particular topics come to mind. One is memory colors which describe the ideal colors people within a cultural group tend to think of when remembering common ele…

UK light is very different to California light.

Colours here really are washed out. A long time ago I was in Australia. My then gf bought a bedspread by an artist called Ken Done - lots of bright primary colours.

It looked great in Sydney.

In UK light - even in sunlight - most of the colour punch disappeared. It actually looked kind of grey and old. Disappointment...

So if supersaturate movie colours, they look surreal here.

But California really is teal and orange. The light is warm and intense, and LA gets a lot of clear blue sky. So I wonder if directors like TnO because it's a variation on natural Hollywood light.

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Ironically, teal and orange reached its peak with tranformers. With the rise of RED cameras (which have useless colour reproduction) we've gone the opposite way, low contrast, lots of grain. http://emertainmentmonthly.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/in... (warning, 5k image) http://applications.creativeengland.co.uk/assets/public/reda... note the softness on james corden's face, thats most likely someone painting out…

I am the guy who did that paint shot you linked to above.

I think you might have mis-understood a part of my post. We don't replace all of the film grain. We go to great lengths to try and maintain as much of the original grain as possible. We certainly add grain to anything we add to a shot but we go to great lengths to match the grain we add to the original grain.

In the example you linked to, I did completely remove the grain from the image before I started to paint out the wire (the painting softens and blurs the grain). But I then took only the areas of the image that I changed with the painting, and but that over the original image, with the original grain on. I then only added 'fake' grain to the areas that I had painted.

The grain that we do add to the visual effects isn't usually 'fake' either. The visual effect supervisor usually takes the cameras that production was using on set and shoots grain samples on the same film stock. We then add these samples back to our VFX work so they match the original footage.

We all so have to do exactly the same with footage that comes from digital cameras but this is more 'noise' than grain. And if the footage came from a compressed source like a GoPro we have to match compression artifacts.

Re: Why Every Movie Looks Sort of Orange and Blue

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One argument in favor of using orange-blue as opposed to other contrasting colors, is that humans associate blue with darkness and depth. Our eyes and mind, too, perceive blue at a lower resolution as other colors (We perceive green with the greatest fidelity).

Colorizing the screen in orange and blue, then, imposes a hierarchy on the objects in the screen. Whereever the orange-blue scheme is used, the blue depicts the background and the orange depicts the action.

This adds to the illusion of depth, which is extremely important especially for Hollywood action films, as they need to feel big and grand amid fast-paced movement and short takes. Where objects flash across the screen in split seconds, the orange-blue contrast can provide a natural vocabulary to re-orient the viewer as to what is happening in the 3D space depicted by the 2D screen.

I would guess that the blue-green colorscheme is overrepresented in action films and especially in action sequences, and underrepresented in say, comedy and romance films.

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Funny to see Amelie there as a counter-example - it's pretty much my favourite movie, and one of the things I love about it is the autumnal quality of the light. Normally I wouldn't notice that kind of thing at all, perhaps it's the contrast with all the orange-and-blues (or maybe just the exceptional loveliness of the film itself)

On the director's commentary, at 21:50, he talks about pushing the digital grading and that "sometimes it's a little bit too much." (But obviously he didn't tone it back!)

He did, however, go completely overboard with A Very Long Engagement, which is drenched in yellow/orange:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYfo3nt-O_U

It's a fine film, but the grading is rather extreme. It does the opposite for the war scenes, which are quite desaturated.

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