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'YOUTUBE is EVIL': Somebody had a tape running, Google

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Re: 'YOUTUBE is EVIL': Somebody had a tape running, Google

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As a Massachusetts resident, this brings the question of "two-party consent" to the forefront for me. There are many times I would like to record conversations, but cannot legally do so.

Who does two-party consent benefit more, the large corporations or the individual's right to privacy? Or is it not black and white?

Re: 'YOUTUBE is EVIL': Somebody had a tape running, Google

#13

Can anyone make sense of what the Google representative is saying in the last paragraph of the transcript, the part that goes "your channel will be separated from the deal and you can enter into a regular youtube partner commercial terms which allows you to monetize the content"? What music would be monetizable under that scheme?

>What music would be monetizable under that scheme?

Ever since Youtube Music was launched, youtube has had all its music removed in the parts of the world where Youtube Music isn't yet "launched".

So by that standard, none at all, because you'll have no visitors & no viewers.

I'm thoroughly impressed about the size of the clusterfuck Youtube has managed to make this whole thing.

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I think it's time for a serious YouTube competitor with more favorable terms for the content creators. Jason Calacanis seems very prescient now [0]. [0] http://blog.launch.co/blog/i-aint-gonna-work-on-youtubes-far...

The huge problem is Youtube is the go-to place when teenagers and young adults want to listen to a piece[0] and they know it. [0] the alternative being torrents, and they're very much non-instant.

> go-to place when teenagers and young adults...

Doesn't that make it easier to disrupt? Younger people are less habit forming and more likely to try new services. I would think the licencing with record labels & infrastructure requirements would be the tough part for a new entrant.

Re: 'YOUTUBE is EVIL': Somebody had a tape running, Google

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I think it's time for a serious YouTube competitor with more favorable terms for the content creators. Jason Calacanis seems very prescient now [0]. [0] http://blog.launch.co/blog/i-aint-gonna-work-on-youtubes-far...

The huge problem is Youtube is the go-to place when teenagers and young adults want to listen to a piece[0] and they know it. [0] the alternative being torrents, and they're very much non-instant.

My friends and I tend to always go to Soundcloud first.

Re: 'YOUTUBE is EVIL': Somebody had a tape running, Google

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The huge problem is Youtube is the go-to place when teenagers and young adults want to listen to a piece[0] and they know it. [0] the alternative being torrents, and they're very much non-instant.

> go-to place when teenagers and young adults... Doesn't that make it easier to disrupt? Younger people are less habit forming and more likely to try new services. I would think the licencing with record labels & infrastructure requirements would be the tough part for a new entrant.

> Doesn't that make it easier to disrupt?

It is if you manage to topple the absolutely gigantic mindshare and you manage to build a similarly complete catalog of official and user-supplied content.

> I would think the licencing with record labels & infrastructure requirements would be the tough part for a new entrant.

And how. Check youtube's all-time top viewed videos, and the vast majority are vevo channels MVs. If you remove vevo and psy, you're left with a pair of videos of the top 30 or 50.

vevo is a joint venture between UMG, Sony, Abu Dhabi Media… and Google.

Re: 'YOUTUBE is EVIL': Somebody had a tape running, Google

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If it's from a tape, why not post the tape?

One reason would be that it compromises the identity of the representative and makes it about him/her - when they were just following the script.

Excellent point. I only thought of wanting to avoid the legal ramifications of surreptitiously recording a conversation in some jurisdictions.

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I think it's time for a serious YouTube competitor with more favorable terms for the content creators. Jason Calacanis seems very prescient now [0]. [0] http://blog.launch.co/blog/i-aint-gonna-work-on-youtubes-far...

The same thing will happen to any competitor. You get big enough and record companies will want to control the shit out of you. They will sue you and write laws against you and intimidate the crap out of you.

Is YouTube turning into Uber?
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