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The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

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Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

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I have a MS in CSCI, PhD in cognitive psych, but know nothing at all about electronics. Is this a reasonable first book? I ask bc somebody compared it to TAOCP which I would not recommend to somebody with zero CSCI/programming skills. EDIT: thanks for the feedback, I'll look elsewhere to get my feet wet.

If you are looking to tinker on projects, kits, etc., other tutorials/books may get you the basic starter info faster. You don't need a deep knowledge to just start playing around.

However, if you are looking to gain a serious academic level of familiarity w/ electronics to the point where you can design, build and analyze your own functional electronic systems, then this is the book. It will give you the foundation you need to build any analog, digital, or hybrid system.

Some fun examples of things we built when I took the class: AM/FM radio, microphones, audio speakers, amplifiers, analog to digital converters, and a breadboard computer built and programmed entirely from basic component parts.

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

#92
post #44

Can someone with no electronics background at all pick up this book? If not what would be a good prerequisite book?

Yes, that's basically the purpose of this book. Though amazingly experts will also learn many things and find it useful too. I took the Physics 123 class at Harvard, from which this book developed from the original course notes, and uses this as the textbook (the class is still taught by Horowitz who has encyclopediac knowledge of electronics and Hayes who replaced Hill when he left Harvard. These guys also wrote the…

I wonder if anyone knows if there is a comparable reference for mechanical engineering? Something that someone in a different discipline could use to get at least conversant in. I'm a EE who has been interested in building more mechanical things (especially how to compute things mechanically), but some of my biggest problems are know what search terms to use when trying to look things up. Like for instance I've been wanting something like a mechanical multiplier/mixer. There would be one rotating input shaft, two rotating output shafts (call them X and Y), and a "control" input which would direct the input shaft motion to the output shafts in proportion to the control. So if the control were at say the "zero" position, all the input motion would be transmitted to the X shaft, and Y would be motionless. When the control was at the "one" position, all the motion would be transmitted to the Y shaft, and X would be stationary. The control would be continuously variable, and it would be great if it also performed the sinusoidal conversion at the same time, essentially:

    X = Input * sin(control)
    Y = Input * cos(control)
...I imagine something like this must exist, and deriving it from first principles probably isn't exceedingly difficult, but knowing what it is called is another matter.

Getting back to the topic at hand, I suppose the book I'm dreaming of would cover things like gears/pulleys and their common/interesting combinations (like a differential), springs, thermodynamics, hydraulics, linkages, heat engines, etc.. And as long as I'm dreaming if there are also similar texts for chemistry and cellular biology/DNA/genetic engineering, I'd also purchase those.

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

#93
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who regularly assigns the question you asked as homework (in an advanced physics course, mind you), let me put in a word of advice: don't think of what you're aiming for as "learn[ing] the formulas". In my experience, that mindset (which fits so very well in most high school science classes) is the single most common stumbling block for college-level physics students. Equations and formulas exist purely in…

Yes, that's an excellent point. So I guess the follow up question is how to learn the qualitative ideas behind electric fields? I've got a lot of inventions I've thought of related to static charges, and I'm trying to basically figure out why they wouldn't work. Maybe I can email a couple over to you and you can point me to the right concepts? (email in my profile)

There's no substitute for actually working through the equations and math, but working with simulations can help drive concepts home. For example, PhET has a virtual capacitor lab (it's a Java applet).

http://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulation/capacitor-lab

If you have multivariable calculus under your belt, then don't be too afraid of jumping into something like Griffiths E&M.

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happened? Digital and moore's law took over. The microprocessor continues to absorb every function that, at one point, made economical sense to do in the analog domain. I share your lament, but reality instructs us to condition signals and supply voltage properly, and let the micro take it from there. It's only going to become more true as time moves on, so learn programming. Get very good at it.

Upvoted. I definitely agree that many erstwhile "analog" functions have joined the dark side. ;-) And I've been programming digital / analog systems since the early 80s. But I think that two challenges / opportunities remain for analog. The first is that advances in digital capabilities place new demands on analog. For instance, the possibility of higher sampling rates and bit depths requires us to go back and update…

I would still add another challenge for analogue: power harvesting. That's an environment where the amount of energy you can collect is so low that you can't simply afford to run a uC. However, you still need to manage that negligible amount of energy, because in the long run, it builds up, and then awesome stuff happens (switching a uC on, for example).

I bought the 2nd edition 15 years ago, I loved it, and I now cherish that useful book in my bookcase.

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

#95

This is offtopic, but I need to ask this question and I fear I may loose the opportunity to field it to this audience of experts. I'm interested in two things and am wondering if this book, or something else, would be of use to me. Assume I have strong math background, and assume I understand the Maxwell equations. What book/resource provides a good understanding of the approximations (from first principles) needed t…

Thanks everyone for the responses. I think it seems, for the depth I'm interested in, it'll require deep study on my part, instead of my spare brain cycles. Here's my thinking that prompted this, sorry for the brain dump and lack of links, these are startupish ideas. In business you have either the forces of disintermediation/vertical-integration, or specialization. We've moved from "real men have foundries" to fable…

We have gone fabless but this hasn't altered the capital equation as much for hardware as one might hope. Chips tend to become 'pad limited' and 'dissipation limited' so there is a limit on what can be done in a certain volume. Some of the more creative stuff isn't about chips, its about interconnects. Which gets us to #2.

The "Internet of Things" isn't really an Internet, the disruption is that everything is a network and yes, Sun had it correct when they said the network is the computer. What you have is a collection of agents which cooperate to achieve a commanded objective. No one cares about 'smart dust' what they care about is the transformative aspects of real time contextual data. The IoT is about creating adapters which convert ambient information into data that can be collectively consumed and processed by computers. A billion barometers on smartphones taking samples of the pressure where they are, combining that with a set of GPS coordinates and transforming ambient data (air pressure at a known point) into a consumable dataset. Which when observed over time can inform on larger processes such as weather fronts. None of that needs "new chips" but it can benefit from easier assembly of existing capabilities.

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

#96
post #8

Well there is another $120 pre-allocated :-). I hope they make an electronic version, although I would be OK with buying a second copy and getting it scanned if they don't.

Just FYI, in case it's not well-known, there's now an electronic version of the 2nd edition for Kindle. It's page-scanned (something Amazon used to be picky about because of file size), so the figures are nice and crisp.

http://www.amazon.com/Art-Electronics-Paul-Horowitz-ebook/dp...

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

#97

Never heard of this but the comments here are piquing my interest. I'm currently reading Digital Computer Electronics (1977 edition, current here: http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Computer-Electronics-Albert-Ma... ). Would others agree this might be a nice follow up for me, especially if I'm looking for more current material now that I (am starting to) get the fundamentals?

Indeed. The 2nd edition companion Student Manual by Tom Hayes (which will also be updated) used in Harvard's class covers building a functioning computer 'from scratch'. Lots of practical labs and discussion in it.

Also, the AoE 3rd edition has a new chapter on microcontrollers.

I'll see if it's OK to post a table of contents of the new book here.

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

#98
post #16

For the uninitiated this is considered, by many, to be the electronics bible. Sort of a TAOCP for electronics and circuits. The last version came out in 1989 and we're finally getting an update this year.

> Sort of a TAOCP for electronics and circuits.

Except people actually read The Art of Electronics :)

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