One Week of Harassment on Twitter • Hacker News Board

Re: One Week of Harassment on Twitter

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Post by realusername » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 4:10 PM UTC

realusername wrote: post #20

I hate to be that guy, but when you see the twitter account, you only have some reports of tweets like this, that's not how the situation is going to be improved. I agree it's outrageous to see people like this, but their twitter account is effectively completely useless to promote their message, I have to scroll down ~100 tweet to have something useful about video games. Their twitter account is effectively doing so…

Please do a constructive comment instead of downvoting me, I'm not posting any spam here. I just fail to see how only posting this kind of tweets is going to promote their cause in any ways, just have a look at their twitter account.

Re: One Week of Harassment on Twitter

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Post by geographomics » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 4:11 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #12

geographomics wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter is mostly public, so it is really a case of self-shaming on the part of the abusive commenters.

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I don't think it's fair to equate the barrage of foul insults Anita is receiving, with her simply saying: look at what I have to put up with.

At most, this is a semi-circle of hatred. The other half of the circle being a mixture of disclosure and, I imagine, catharsis.

Re: One Week of Harassment on Twitter

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Post by cmdkeen » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 4:12 PM UTC

It would be entirely possible for Twitter to create various community driven feedback mechanisms, they just don't want to.

Plenty of online communities have various moderation systems, including HN that hugely reduce the potential for abuse, trolling and bullying - and most don't require your real identity.

Re: One Week of Harassment on Twitter

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Post by aqme28 » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 4:12 PM UTC

realusername wrote: post #31

realusername wrote: post #20

I hate to be that guy, but when you see the twitter account, you only have some reports of tweets like this, that's not how the situation is going to be improved. I agree it's outrageous to see people like this, but their twitter account is effectively completely useless to promote their message, I have to scroll down ~100 tweet to have something useful about video games. Their twitter account is effectively doing so…

Please do a constructive comment instead of downvoting me, I'm not posting any spam here. I just fail to see how only posting this kind of tweets is going to promote their cause in any ways, just have a look at their twitter account.

I think people are confused about what you're trying to say. I myself am a little lost.

Re: One Week of Harassment on Twitter

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Post by geographomics » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 4:14 PM UTC

sauere wrote: post #25

jameskilton wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you saying with your comment? That we should just accept this despicable hatred? That this is normal?

Yes. Deal with it. If would have made a top hacker news post everytime someone insulted me in the net i would be rich by now. Just f*ing deal with it.

Talking about unsavoury experiences is a very valuable method of dealing with them.

Perhaps what you really meant was, shut up and take the abuse quietly? Not a very helpful suggestion.

Re: One Week of Harassment on Twitter

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Post by ignostic » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 4:14 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #2

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The circle? I didn't see her threatening to kill or rape anyone. I'm pretty sure she's not putting it out there as retribution. It'd be pretty ineffective retribution considering the offenders put it out there themselves. I believe the point was to show how bad the harassment has become.

There are clearly both bigoted and inclusive gamers. I don't think anyone is saying "all gamers are sexist." But there is clearly a problem here that's worth discussing.

Re: One Week of Harassment on Twitter

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Post by nuunien » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 4:15 PM UTC

realusername wrote: post #31

realusername wrote: post #20

I hate to be that guy, but when you see the twitter account, you only have some reports of tweets like this, that's not how the situation is going to be improved. I agree it's outrageous to see people like this, but their twitter account is effectively completely useless to promote their message, I have to scroll down ~100 tweet to have something useful about video games. Their twitter account is effectively doing so…

Please do a constructive comment instead of downvoting me, I'm not posting any spam here. I just fail to see how only posting this kind of tweets is going to promote their cause in any ways, just have a look at their twitter account.

This is a marketing strategy. Down voting you means less people see the real arguments against them, because they are unfavorable. It's sad to see hnews fall prey to these professional victims/trolls.

Make no mistake, this chick makes a lot of money off the hate she worked so hard to get.

Re: One Week of Harassment on Twitter

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Post by teamhappy » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 4:17 PM UTC

aqme28 wrote: post #27

jug5 wrote: post #23

Wow we're linking tumblr now? Brand new low...

Tumblr is just a blogging platform. Why can't we link to a blog?

I am told (!) that Tumblr is one of the more immature platforms out there, especially in regards to feminism/gaming. Then again, it might just be that jug5 doesn't like Tumblr. I wouldn't know, really.

Re: One Week of Harassment on Twitter

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Post by danielweber » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 4:19 PM UTC

shalmanese wrote: post #29

The most recent episode of This American Life ( http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/545/i... ) has Jezebel writer Lindy West reach out and talk to one of her trolls who created a page celebrating her father's death and claiming she was a disappointment to him. He sent her an apology after realizing there was an actual person on the other end of his trolling and they actually have a remarkably civil…

"The most common response was not remorse or defensiveness but surprise. They were startled that I could hear what they’d been saying."

Re: One Week of Harassment on Twitter

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Post by danielweber » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 4:23 PM UTC

endergen wrote: post #15

It's illegal to make death threats offline. It should be online too.

It is, but there's a bunch of legal doctrine to say what actually counts as a threat. Also, SCOTUS has a case before it now that will further refine the issue, specifically about online behavior.