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Deploying Tor Relays

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Re: Deploying Tor Relays

#11
post #6

Neat. Obviously apples and oranges, but between this and Facebook's Tor Hidden Service we're starting to see adoption of real privacy tools among major companies.

> facebook > privacy

I don't think that Facebook has responded to many demands for data from the Syrian/Burmese/Saudi governments. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: Deploying Tor Relays

#12
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> facebook > privacy

I don't think that Facebook has responded to many demands for data from the Syrian/Burmese/Saudi governments. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Probably not from any foreign countries but I would bet 110% that they are an open book to the US government.

Re: Deploying Tor Relays

#13
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> facebook > privacy

I don't think that Facebook has responded to many demands for data from the Syrian/Burmese/Saudi governments. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

How about the United States / China / Russia / Great Britain?

Re: Deploying Tor Relays

#15
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that Facebook has responded to many demands for data from the Syrian/Burmese/Saudi governments. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Probably not from any foreign countries but I would bet 110% that they are an open book to the US government.

A problem that is not exclusive to Facebook. In fact, all U.S. companies are open books to U.S. Government employees wielding the right documents.

My point was that a Tor Hidden Service provides anonymity to users in countries whose _links_ to Facebook's servers are policed.

Re: Deploying Tor Relays

#16
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that Facebook has responded to many demands for data from the Syrian/Burmese/Saudi governments. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

How about the United States / China / Russia / Great Britain?

Oh they're on the right side, so it's OK /s

Re: Deploying Tor Relays

#17

Im not sure if mozilla should get into such a political field.

Mozilla is a political organisation. Aside from the fact that developing free, privacy-focused software is an inherently political thing to do, they have the Mozilla Manifesto[0], which states (the relevant bits here being singled out):

> The Internet is a global public resource that must remain open and accessible.

> Individuals’ security and privacy on the Internet are fundamental and must not be treated as optional.

> We will [...] use the Mozilla assets (intellectual property such as copyrights and trademarks, infrastructure, funds, and reputation) to keep the Internet an open platform [and] promote the Mozilla Manifesto principles in public discourse and within the Internet industry.

[0] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/details/

Re: Deploying Tor Relays

#19
They better tell their employees not to buy any drugs or use TOR for illegal stuff, because now they'll be representing the whole TOR project and The Free Web.

So it's like, they don't just represent themselves anymore, and an arrest will be a political tool to smash everything into corporate/government control.

Re: Deploying Tor Relays

#20
post #3

I hope they are going to be deploying exit nodes as well. It's not very safe to run an exit node but I doubt the FBI will be raiding Mozilla and other big companies for them if this practice continues.

It is plenty safe to run exit nodes. If your host complains, there is even form letters to send. The government knows that seizing an exit node will not help them in anyway (one can go online immediately.)

Do you think Amazon gets raided? Do you know how many exit nodes are in AWS? My guess is lots because I know 2 people who have them and I don't know a lot of people.

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