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Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

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Post by ChuckMcM » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 4:48 AM UTC

throwaway000002 wrote: post #20

This is offtopic, but I need to ask this question and I fear I may loose the opportunity to field it to this audience of experts. I'm interested in two things and am wondering if this book, or something else, would be of use to me. Assume I have strong math background, and assume I understand the Maxwell equations. What book/resource provides a good understanding of the approximations (from first principles) needed t…

If you threw out an off topic post and actually put contact information in your profile, and I had something to add, I would email you and nobody here would care (although your off topic post might get downvoted into oblivion) but submitting an off topic post with no way to contact you is not very useful.

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

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Post by aswanson » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 4:49 AM UTC

analog31 wrote: post #6

I learned from the 1st edition, back in 1983, when I took the electronics course for physics majors. I think it's the best textbook I've ever used, in any subject. I fell in love with analog electronics. Note my HN user name. ;-) What's happened with analog since then? I believe that opto-electronics is much more important today, as are switchmode circuits. Some things, like systematic noise budgeting, will never go…

What happened? Digital and moore's law took over. The microprocessor continues to absorb every function that, at one point, made economical sense to do in the analog domain. I share your lament, but reality instructs us to condition signals and supply voltage properly, and let the micro take it from there. It's only going to become more true as time moves on, so learn programming. Get very good at it.

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

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Post by aswanson » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 4:54 AM UTC

This is a book that they should introduce freshman year to all ee undergraduates. For some reason, the traditional first-year curriculum mandates the same high school calculus and physics that bored the better students in their teen years. But in my not so humble opinion, this is the type of stuff they should start out with.

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

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Post by ausjke » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 4:57 AM UTC

can I pre-order at amazon? i have the 2nd but would like to get 3rd, preferably in e-book format though

update: it's on amazon, just pre-ordered one copy for $108

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

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Post by Animats » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 5:00 AM UTC

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Electronics#Third_e... for all the pre-announcements since 2006. This isn't the first announcement. Back in 2009 or so Amazon was taking pre-orders.

It really is an excellent book. It was written as a guide for grad students who need to build instrumentation. A 25 year old book on electronic design that talks about specific IC part numbers in detail is way out of date, though. The approach used needs a refresh every five years or so.

It's less necessary than it used to be. We have so many on-line resources for building electronics now.

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

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Post by jjoonathan » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 5:18 AM UTC

aswanson wrote: post #22

analog31 wrote: post #6

I learned from the 1st edition, back in 1983, when I took the electronics course for physics majors. I think it's the best textbook I've ever used, in any subject. I fell in love with analog electronics. Note my HN user name. ;-) What's happened with analog since then? I believe that opto-electronics is much more important today, as are switchmode circuits. Some things, like systematic noise budgeting, will never go…

What happened? Digital and moore's law took over. The microprocessor continues to absorb every function that, at one point, made economical sense to do in the analog domain. I share your lament, but reality instructs us to condition signals and supply voltage properly, and let the micro take it from there. It's only going to become more true as time moves on, so learn programming. Get very good at it.

And just how many serial busses, wireless networks, HDD heads, flash level detectors, and DRAM sense amplifiers did those words of yours have to travel across to get from you to me compared to 10 or 15 years ago?

Analog only looks like it's falling in importance if you divide by the size of the digital industry.

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

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Post by aceperry » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 5:28 AM UTC

I loved that book. Glad to see an update. It has much practical advice that you don't get in the classroom.

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

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Post by aceperry » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 5:30 AM UTC

Animats wrote: post #25

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Electronics#Third_e... for all the pre-announcements since 2006. This isn't the first announcement. Back in 2009 or so Amazon was taking pre-orders. It really is an excellent book. It was written as a guide for grad students who need to build instrumentation. A 25 year old book on electronic design that talks about specific IC part numbers in detail is way out of date, tho…

Interestingly, a lot of the parts discussed are still in wide use today. Much of the concepts are necessary for understanding circuits and how they work.

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

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Post by whistlerbrk » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 5:34 AM UTC

Never heard of this but the comments here are piquing my interest.

I'm currently reading Digital Computer Electronics (1977 edition, current here: http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Computer-Electronics-Albert-Ma...).

Would others agree this might be a nice follow up for me, especially if I'm looking for more current material now that I (am starting to) get the fundamentals?

Re: The Art of Electronics, 3rd Edition, to be released April 2015

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Post by markrages » Wed, Jan 28, 2015, 5:37 AM UTC

aceperry wrote: post #28

Animats wrote: post #25

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Electronics#Third_e... for all the pre-announcements since 2006. This isn't the first announcement. Back in 2009 or so Amazon was taking pre-orders. It really is an excellent book. It was written as a guide for grad students who need to build instrumentation. A 25 year old book on electronic design that talks about specific IC part numbers in detail is way out of date, tho…

Interestingly, a lot of the parts discussed are still in wide use today. Much of the concepts are necessary for understanding circuits and how they work.

Some of the parts discussed are probably in wide use because they are mentioned in AoE. The uA741 effect.