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To Protect His Son, a Father Asks School to Bar Unvaccinated Children

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Re: To Protect His Son, a Father Asks School to Bar Unvaccinated Children

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Mockery and ridicule are powerful tools. This is a good application for them.

Mockery and ridicule do not change people's minds. People who chose not to vaccinate their children only retreat further from vaccination if you use mockery or ridicule.

If your aim is to protect children by increasing the numbers of vaccinated children it's important not to use mockery or ridicule. Those are the wrong tools.

Re: To Protect His Son, a Father Asks School to Bar Unvaccinated Children

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New York has set such a policy in place and it's been upheld through multiple trials and appeals. Perhaps once it's settled in the higher courts it will become standard policy in a lot of other places. Once can hope.

http://jurist.org/paperchase/2015/01/federal-appeals-court-u...

Re: To Protect His Son, a Father Asks School to Bar Unvaccinated Children

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Mockery and ridicule are powerful tools. This is a good application for them.

Mockery and ridicule do not change people's minds. People who chose not to vaccinate their children only retreat further from vaccination if you use mockery or ridicule. If your aim is to protect children by increasing the numbers of vaccinated children it's important not to use mockery or ridicule. Those are the wrong tools.

> If your aim is to protect children by increasing the numbers of vaccinated children it's important not to use mockery or ridicule. Those are the wrong tools.

When education fails, when facts fail, when logic and reason fail, you're left with mockery and/or ridicule.

Re: To Protect His Son, a Father Asks School to Bar Unvaccinated Children

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post #4
post #2

Mockery and ridicule are powerful tools. This is a good application for them.

Mockery and ridicule do not change people's minds. People who chose not to vaccinate their children only retreat further from vaccination if you use mockery or ridicule. If your aim is to protect children by increasing the numbers of vaccinated children it's important not to use mockery or ridicule. Those are the wrong tools.

People who choose not to vaccinate their children are by and large beyond the reach of reason, in much the same way the typical religious person is. I wouldn't advocate mockery and ridicule because it is as equally wasted as reason is on these people. Instead they should simply be ignored to the extent possible, and when not possible as in the case of the subject of this article they should be quarantined so the rest of us don't suffer from their ignorance.

Re: To Protect His Son, a Father Asks School to Bar Unvaccinated Children

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New York has set such a policy in place and it's been upheld through multiple trials and appeals. Perhaps once it's settled in the higher courts it will become standard policy in a lot of other places. Once can hope. http://jurist.org/paperchase/2015/01/federal-appeals-court-u...

It seems to me like New York's current law is the same as California. From the article you linked: The state law provides two exemptions from the mandate, ... the second for "children whose parent, parents, or guardian hold genuine and sincere religious beliefs which are contrary to the practices herein required.

The NPR article seems to discuss a father specifically attacking the personal belief exemption in California, so I don't see how the NY court's ruling would change that?

Re: To Protect His Son, a Father Asks School to Bar Unvaccinated Children

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post #4
post #2

Mockery and ridicule are powerful tools. This is a good application for them.

Mockery and ridicule do not change people's minds. People who chose not to vaccinate their children only retreat further from vaccination if you use mockery or ridicule. If your aim is to protect children by increasing the numbers of vaccinated children it's important not to use mockery or ridicule. Those are the wrong tools.

I think Child Protective Services would be a good tool.
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