Uh, wasn't Regin apparently used in the Sony hack?
Source Code Similarities Between NSA Malware and 'Regin' Trojan
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#12Nothing like waking up to a story that makes you feel embarrassed by your citizenship. Good job Canada, you're making a Maple Leaf a dangerous symbol all around the world.
When I was a youngster, being Canadian meant that Incould travel anywhere and be fine. Granted, there was a > 50% probability that the other Canadians I would meet were really Americans, but that was nothing. My country had a solid international reputation. Now???
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#13There are also additional clues pointing to Regin being a Five Eyes tool: In the QWERTY code, there are numerous references to cricket, a sport that enjoys extreme popularity in the Commonwealth. Given the relative popularity of cricket in the US vs. the rest of the world, it's more likely that this was written outside the NSA.
Or they had an Indian programmer in their team.
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#14Uh, wasn't Regin apparently used in the Sony hack?
No?
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#15My current opinion on government hacking is, that I actually want democratic government to be the biggest meanest hackers of them all. The alternative, unfortunately, is that either organized crime or non-democratic governments (or a combination of both) would be the biggest meanest hackers. And hacking doesn't really scale. Mass surveillance just through attacking individuals with malware isn't possible, because of…
Or, you know, they could concentrate on defense rather than offense
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#17My current opinion on government hacking is, that I actually want democratic government to be the biggest meanest hackers of them all. The alternative, unfortunately, is that either organized crime or non-democratic governments (or a combination of both) would be the biggest meanest hackers. And hacking doesn't really scale. Mass surveillance just through attacking individuals with malware isn't possible, because of…
I am confused in just about everything you said. So what do you endorse and what
do you mean by "biggest meanest hackers"?
How would that fit in a democratic government?
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#18My current opinion on government hacking is, that I actually want democratic government to be the biggest meanest hackers of them all. The alternative, unfortunately, is that either organized crime or non-democratic governments (or a combination of both) would be the biggest meanest hackers. And hacking doesn't really scale. Mass surveillance just through attacking individuals with malware isn't possible, because of…
I don't get it. The NSA is not a democratic government ... It's not elected by the people. The US people have no control over the NSA.
There are also good reasons to argue that the US is not democratic: http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746
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#19My current opinion on government hacking is, that I actually want democratic government to be the biggest meanest hackers of them all. The alternative, unfortunately, is that either organized crime or non-democratic governments (or a combination of both) would be the biggest meanest hackers. And hacking doesn't really scale. Mass surveillance just through attacking individuals with malware isn't possible, because of…
I am confused in just about everything you said. So what do you endorse and what do you mean by "biggest meanest hackers"? How would that fit in a democratic government?
It depends on just who you are attacking. Terrorist groups, criminal organizations or criminal individuals are legitimate targets of a cyber attack, just as they could and should be put under conventional surveillance.
If government agencies attack ordinary citizens or companies, without legitimate authorization, than it's not a problem of means or tools but rather a problem with democratic or judicial oversight on these organizations.
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#20My current opinion on government hacking is, that I actually want democratic government to be the biggest meanest hackers of them all. The alternative, unfortunately, is that either organized crime or non-democratic governments (or a combination of both) would be the biggest meanest hackers. And hacking doesn't really scale. Mass surveillance just through attacking individuals with malware isn't possible, because of…
Or, you know, they could concentrate on defense rather than offense
How can they provide adequate defenses without having the best offensive hackers? At the very least, penetration testing is an indispensable tool in cyber security.
Also, surveillance of criminal and terrorist organizations without offensive capabilities is impossible.