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“I got an email from Chase saying that all our assets are frozen”

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Re: “I got an email from Chase saying that all our assets are frozen”

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This gives me yet another good reason to keep BECU[1] as my only bank for any non-trivial amount of money... it can be a pain if I need an ATM, but I can at least trust that they will generally be on my side. [1] https://becu.org

A fix for the certificate error, https://www.becu.org

Re: “I got an email from Chase saying that all our assets are frozen”

#12
If you're wondering (like I was) why MA thinks this guy owes anything at all, it's buried in the middle:

"Again, I hadn't lived there or worked there since 2003, but I did own part of a business that was headquartered in MA, and the state was using this fact to harass me for income tax money."

So is the MA tax bill based on the profits of that business, or is the state just using it to say "you should pay all your income tax here"? Regardless, his beef should be with MA rather than the bank. I'd hardly fault Chase for complying with a court order - if crossing a state line made you judgement proof, why wouldn't everyone just run up debts, move one state over, and start fresh?

Re: “I got an email from Chase saying that all our assets are frozen”

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post #6

This gives me yet another good reason to keep BECU[1] as my only bank for any non-trivial amount of money... it can be a pain if I need an ATM, but I can at least trust that they will generally be on my side. [1] https://becu.org

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There is a huge difference between the skills necessary to safely hold your money and setting up HTTPS. I bet you that there are a lot of fraudulent banks that are very good with https, but aren't to be trusted.

Re: “I got an email from Chase saying that all our assets are frozen”

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post #12

If you're wondering (like I was) why MA thinks this guy owes anything at all, it's buried in the middle: "Again, I hadn't lived there or worked there since 2003, but I did own part of a business that was headquartered in MA, and the state was using this fact to harass me for income tax money." So is the MA tax bill based on the profits of that business, or is the state just using it to say "you should pay all your in…

OP claims "they have not sued me or sent me any sort of court order"

Edit: According to [0] they don't need to. They just send you a notice and if you don't respond in time they take what they want. It's not clear what constitutes responding or how to get the case into a court and out of an administrative process. I don't know about the out-of-state bank thing.

[0] http://www.mass.gov/dor/businesses/help-and-resources/legal-...

Re: “I got an email from Chase saying that all our assets are frozen”

#15

This gives me yet another good reason to keep BECU[1] as my only bank for any non-trivial amount of money... it can be a pain if I need an ATM, but I can at least trust that they will generally be on my side. [1] https://becu.org

Why do you believe BECU would be any better?

Re: “I got an email from Chase saying that all our assets are frozen”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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There is a huge difference between the skills necessary to safely hold your money and setting up HTTPS. I bet you that there are a lot of fraudulent banks that are very good with https, but aren't to be trusted.

The difference is the same as the difference between the skills neccessary to be an ambassador and to wipe your bottom - one is trivial, but is a subset of the other.

In order to safely run an internetbank, there are a thousand of small things that all must be done right. If they can't even set up (and test, and verify, and maintain) https, what makes you think that they can handle 100% of the much more complicated computing security issues without missing something?

Re: “I got an email from Chase saying that all our assets are frozen”

#17

This gives me yet another good reason to keep BECU[1] as my only bank for any non-trivial amount of money... it can be a pain if I need an ATM, but I can at least trust that they will generally be on my side. [1] https://becu.org

I know from living in Seattle that they're a reputable credit union, but the fact that their home page gives me a certificate error is a bad pattern that trains users to ignore scary red messages. (The problem is that the cert is for www.becu.org , not becu.org .)

I think its because they never intended to be linked to without the www.

Re: “I got an email from Chase saying that all our assets are frozen”

#20

It's shit like this that makes me want Bitcoin or one of the alternatives to succeed. I don't care if it ends up being worth $10 or $50K, as long as many people use it. The banking system is rotten to the core.

The government will take what it wants. If you have a house, they will take it. If you have a car, they will take it. Bits on a hard drive don't help if you can't hold property. They even got the Swiss banks to cough up American accounts.
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