Wow...this looks like a clone of Trello, sorry I cannot support this. I have been using Trello for a long time and I refuse to give credits to someone who blatantly stole the assets, code, etc. and didn't even care to AT LEAST add a different touch to the project. I love open source but this project is off the limit concerning copyrights.
What code did they steal, exactly? They re-implemented all of the functionality, and I'm not sure they took take the JS either. So at this point, it leaves CSS + Look&Feel, and I think they took some icons, though that seems like more of an oversight as it's still a young project from the looks of it. I don't see this as any different to such works as OpenTTD (Transport Tycoon Deluxe) and CorsixTH (Theme Hospital). B…
Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello
71–80 of 107 posts
Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello
#72Been kinda building a trello-like app myself. But it's far more simplistic in features, and i'm trying to build it so it's way more mobile friendly. I have the front end as open source, and the web back end as closed. Not sure why I am doing it this way, but I hope to put out a proprietary iOS app for it at some point. More or less started it to learn ReactJS. http://gitub.com/agmcleod/desert
There's typo in the URL, should be: https://github.com/agmcleod/desert
Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello
#73I like it. I'm using Trello now, but the interface doesn't work that convenient on mobile I think. So I was thinking to make a client of my own using the Trello API, but this way I can change the original interface to my likings, and hopefully other's likings, so it gets merged :). EDIT: A lot of people seem to think it looks to much like Trello. While I agree that the interface looks strikingly similar (or maybe eve…
> While I agree that the interface looks strikingly similar (or maybe even just exactly the same), I think the intentions are not to evil. How can libre software have evil intentions?
It is not evil, it just stupid. Lots of effort now is wasted because they made the stupid mistake to use illegitimate assets. And of course stupidity does not absolve responsibility.
> And, in the end, isn't that why we have libre software at all? We want to have control over the software, instead of the software having control over us, right?
That is exactly why it is so important to do these sorts of things by the book. By crossing the line authors of this project gave away large chunk of the control they (and us by extension) had.
Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello
#74I love the idea of open source tools, but this goes way too far. This isn't just rebuilding a popular concept, this is taking code that was written by a for-profit company and blatantly stealing it. There's an important difference. The earlier versions of this repo still used the Trello logo. Trello's CSS is blatantly used, even using trellicons, the custom icon font created by Trello. The entire front-end is complet…
Hmm. I've spent some time making my own Trello clone but mine has changed a little more than the one in the OP. First of all, mine is called Trellu. Check it out and let me know your thoughts: http://goo.gl/n8Ca0M
Hmmm, the intro video of the founder explaining Trellu is weird. He reminds me of a cropped Joel Spolsky. I don't know why.
Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello
#75Wow...this looks like a clone of Trello, sorry I cannot support this. I have been using Trello for a long time and I refuse to give credits to someone who blatantly stole the assets, code, etc. and didn't even care to AT LEAST add a different touch to the project. I love open source but this project is off the limit concerning copyrights.
What code did they steal, exactly? They re-implemented all of the functionality, and I'm not sure they took take the JS either. So at this point, it leaves CSS + Look&Feel, and I think they took some icons, though that seems like more of an oversight as it's still a young project from the looks of it. I don't see this as any different to such works as OpenTTD (Transport Tycoon Deluxe) and CorsixTH (Theme Hospital). B…
Hot-linking has a very real and ongoing cost associated with it.
Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Imitation is different than directly copying the CSS. They copied the CSS.
Which is totally fine for development purposes (prototype) and work in progress mockups. But they should have changed it before putting it on a public-facing .com domain.
I'm going to suggest that it's not even good for prototype work, because it invalidates any claim to clean-room implementation and makes it very easy to cross the line between original work and ripoff.
Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
And now they were just DMCA'ed, rightfully so in my opinion. If you believe in open source, then you need to be respectful of copyright law. It is the foundation for open source licensing.
If you believe in open source, then you need to be respectful of copyright law. It is the foundation for open source licensing. I don't see how that follows. I support open source, that is, the free distribution of software code. Open source licensing is just a necessary evil to account for the fact that copyright is anti-open-source by default. A few decades back, when the US and other countries required registratio…
It depends on your meaning behind "free distribution", but arguably most open source licenses don't exist to provide that specifically -- they exist to permit it while abiding by the other conditions on the license.
For example, if you don't respect copyright law, you wouldn't be able to argue that a corporation taking GPLed code and incorporating it into a proprietary product is immoral nor taking BSD licensed code and removing a link back to the original author is immoral.
Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the authors have genuinely copied CSS and icons (I haven't checked) then I would expect Trello Inc. to pursue the authors for copyright infringement (justifiably). The point is to be very precise with the criticism. Is the work stolen (protected by copyright law) or is it just a convincing clone?
They have clearly original Trello content checked in the repository.
Fine. That's infringement!
Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello
#79I think if this had been actually clean-room reverse-engineered, it wouldn't be getting the backlash it's getting.
The fact that the LibreBoard devs outright ripped off Trello's CSS and HTML is a bit disappointing. Perhaps with the DMCA notice they got, they'll consider scrapping the current UI and coming up with something a bit more, you know, not blatantly copy-pasted.
That said, being able to use something reasonably-Trello-like for internal use (with data under the control of the entity using it) is a fantastic idea, and the fact that LibreBoard does that reasonably well (from what I can tell) gives me some hope that they'll manage to pull themselves out of this muck.
EDIT: And apparently there is, in fact, an effort to actually create a UI that isn't a blatant Trello ripoff: https://github.com/libreboard/libreboard/issues/94
Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello
#80I don't understand the ethical dilemma many of you are raising. I've never believed there's such a thing as plagiarism of style, only things like algorithms and methodologies. If someone makes a wierd looking chair, and I like it and make my own, and they try to tell me I'm stealing their ideas they can fuck off, especially if I'm not selling this chair but just using it for myself and helping others build their own…
The case for infringement would be very weak to non-existent if they recreated the look and feel writing the CSS themselves from scratch. The issue is they took the original product and modified some spacing and other minor details and redistributed it. Any written work like this is copyrightable.