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Barrett Brown sentenced to 63 months in prison

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Re: Barrett Brown sentenced to 63 months in prison

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> First, an argument that can only be falsified by running an experiment that involves the armed overthrow of the government is not really in the spirit of "falsifiability". I disagree entirely. Ideas are either falsifiable or not. An idea is not unfalsifiable because the experiment required to test it is expensive beyond some M. Real physicists discuss and publish theories that are impossible to test with current le…

I'm a little lost. If it's unlikely to have happened here, why was it brought up in the first place? What's the relevance to this thread? The request you're referring to isn't mine; it's 'specialp's. It's in response to this comment (in its entirety): My guess is he plead guilty under advisement his case was hopeless. There's a significant likelihood evidence necessary to aide his case is locked away deep inside the…

>If it's unlikely to have happened here, why was it brought up in the first place? What's the relevance to this thread?

I don't care about that. I just thought your assessment of an earlier statement as unfalsifiable was wrong and I responded to it.

>Which is an even less falsifiable argument than the specific one we're debating!

It seems equally falsifiable and falls under my earlier test.

Again, falsifiability is a binary condition, not a spectrum. Something either has the potential to be empirically determined, and is falsifiable, or cannot.

Re: Barrett Brown sentenced to 63 months in prison

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Every case prosecuted by the FBI ever since parallel construction started is fruit of the poison tree.

To downvoters: the truth hurts, doesn't it?

I'd rather they downvote me, than try to blackmail me and drive me to suicide like they've attempted to do in the past with other US citizens. (Oops, now I'm conflating the NSA and the FBI -- I'm sure someone from their fan club will be along to remind me of that important distinction.)

It's as if they honestly don't understand why it's their responsibility to show they've reformed, and not our responsibility to show that they haven't. Life is just one big TV script to these people.

Oh, well... if they had enough imagination to contemplate what will happen when the next J. Edgar Hoover gains "Total Information Awareness," they'd be even more dangerous.

Re: Barrett Brown sentenced to 63 months in prison

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It only seems opaque because the article is so shitty. They bury the actual basis of the sentence in the middle: > He ultimately signed a plea deal on three lesser charges: transmitting a threat, trying to hide a laptop computer during a raid, and to being "accessory after the fact in the unauthorized access to a protected computer." The factual stipulation justifies each of these: https://freebarrettbrown.org/files/…

Oh yes but you may have left out some context forming the basis of comparison, that the hack was breaking password hashes. Which were broken by Hector "sabu" Monseignor (sp?), who was taking orders from the FBI at the time and using FBI resources to break those hashes. Actual criminal conspiracy before the fact. Charges for that? I haven't heard of them, have you? What should the sentence for that criminal conspiracy…

Voted down with no response. This is typical. ;-)

Re: Barrett Brown sentenced to 63 months in prison

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tptacek previously linked[1] to Brown's threats, but it was a screenshot. Here's a partial transcription: Brown called FBI Special Agent [RS] a "fucking chicken shit little faggot cocksucker" Brown stated "when I say [RS's] life is over, I don't say I'm going to kill him, but I am going to ruin his life and look into his fucking kids" Brown stated "I"m armed, that I come from a military family, that I was taught to s…

First Amendment law makes this murky. A legally actionable threat has to be "true": credible, specific, intended to convey actual fear to its target. Even if it's to a federal agent.

https://www.google.com.au/search?num=100&site=&source=hp&q=d... One law for all, evenly applied.
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