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Lars Andersen: a new level of archery [video]

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Re: Lars Andersen: a new level of archery [video]

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He seems to be shooting a very light bow, from the trajectory of his arrow in one of the outdoor shots, and his technique probably wouldn't work very long for a heavier bow or more arrows, because he doesn't seem to be using his back very much. (I'm an archer).

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I'd love to know the draw weights of the bows he's using. One of the differences between the sort of archery he's doing and the standard recurve competition shooting you'll see is that the latter is much slower, more relaxed, with very defined, conscious aiming. The idea is to do precisely the same thing, with your whole body, over and over and over again. His aiming is completely instinctual. Because of the way the…

From the trajectory of one of his outdoor shots, IMHO, he shoots 25-30 lbs.

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None of these are forgotten archery techniques. Some of them are acrobatic, some are silly, some are unreliable. (Some fall into more than one of those categories.) Modern Olympic archers are all about accuracy, with no points for speed other than an overall time limit. If you want to learn archery with both speed and accuracy, you could do worse than to find your local SCA group. A Royal Round is a set of six arrows…

Could you or anyone share some youtube videos of such events, possibly? I've managed to find only some crossbow one, it didn't look very fast in comparison, but also crossbow is inherently slower. I'd be very interested in seeing the examples of what you're talking about. Also, I'm confused by the explanation you provide for the score counting. Is it 90pts max over 3 rounds, + 30 seconds extra? Is the bullseye during…

There are a fair number of such videos; consider https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T8V5woO7zQ (2013 Royal Tournament in Atlantia)

Of course Lars is much faster: he's showing you an edited compilation of the best things he's ever done. A Ludicrous Bowman can reliably hit the bullseye on each of thirty shots in a row, and then also shoot somewhere between 6 bullseyes and 12 lesser shots in 30 seconds... and then do it all over again.

Re: Lars Andersen: a new level of archery [video]

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That video was neat, but it looks entirely like underpowered archery. Was it really guns that made people not care about this kind of thing (fast archery on the run)? Or was it simply more powerful longbows that meant archers would shoot from further off? On a related note, in this video he catches an arrow out of the air. But that air must have been moving relatively slowly. There was a Mythbusters years ago where t…

Yes the arrow is slow, because the bows are not heavy, probably in the 25-30 lbs range.

Re: Lars Andersen: a new level of archery [video]

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As someone who owns a bow (old bowtech patriot) and has spent countless hours in the woods with bows, this guy is a gymnast, not an ancient archer. (1) Archery has never been about speed. You don't need to be a hunter to appreciate that hunting does not involve any bouncing around like a woodland sprite. (2) Arrows are not bullets. The do not kill quickly. Shooting at people five or ten feet away is suicide. Even if…

Concur. Besides, he is probably shooting less than 30 lbs which is enough for his stunts, when you want to be shooting 70-80 lbs for hunting. Given his technique, I'd like to see him pull that. As for "war", I've seen medieval estimates of 140 lbs, which always left me wondering, because after 20 years pulling 45 lbs myself, 140 lbs just means "injury" to me.

Re: Lars Andersen: a new level of archery [video]

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I'm not an archer of any rank. But my take on this is that he's trying to represent or reproduce the skill of archery when archery was essential to war and hunting. Great skill in an Olympic competition is certainly an impressive achievement but it may be worthless outside the clearly defined rules of competition. Between your 120 bowman and this guy, which one wins in battle and which one brings home fresh meat for…

Being able to reliably hit a very small target at 70 yards at full draw is exactly what I would want for hunting. That game is easily spooked and can likely evade you better than you can chase it. Why in the world would you want to get any closer than necessary and be moving while attempting to shoot it? Not to mention that his 10 shots at the beginning of the video are no where close to full draw. I'd suspect that e…

Hunting at 70 yards? All the bowhunters at my club practice below 50 yards.

Re: Lars Andersen: a new level of archery [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not an archer of any rank. But my take on this is that he's trying to represent or reproduce the skill of archery when archery was essential to war and hunting. Great skill in an Olympic competition is certainly an impressive achievement but it may be worthless outside the clearly defined rules of competition. Between your 120 bowman and this guy, which one wins in battle and which one brings home fresh meat for…

Being able to reliably hit a very small target at 70 yards at full draw is exactly what I would want for hunting. That game is easily spooked and can likely evade you better than you can chase it. Why in the world would you want to get any closer than necessary and be moving while attempting to shoot it? Not to mention that his 10 shots at the beginning of the video are no where close to full draw. I'd suspect that e…

You might be hunting bison or hunting on horseback(or an ATV).

Re: Lars Andersen: a new level of archery [video]

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As someone who owns a bow (old bowtech patriot) and has spent countless hours in the woods with bows, this guy is a gymnast, not an ancient archer. (1) Archery has never been about speed. You don't need to be a hunter to appreciate that hunting does not involve any bouncing around like a woodland sprite. (2) Arrows are not bullets. The do not kill quickly. Shooting at people five or ten feet away is suicide. Even if…

I am very skeptical of your claims. Turkish archery and bison hunting were very much about speed and being able to shoot from a mobile target at relatively close enemies.

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Could you or anyone share some youtube videos of such events, possibly? I've managed to find only some crossbow one, it didn't look very fast in comparison, but also crossbow is inherently slower. I'd be very interested in seeing the examples of what you're talking about. Also, I'm confused by the explanation you provide for the score counting. Is it 90pts max over 3 rounds, + 30 seconds extra? Is the bullseye during…

There are a fair number of such videos; consider https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T8V5woO7zQ (2013 Royal Tournament in Atlantia) Of course Lars is much faster: he's showing you an edited compilation of the best things he's ever done. A Ludicrous Bowman can reliably hit the bullseye on each of thirty shots in a row, and then also shoot somewhere between 6 bullseyes and 12 lesser shots in 30 seconds... and then do it a…

That video is for a crossbow.
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