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British Spy Agency Considers Journalists a Threat, Vacuums Up Their Emails

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Re: British Spy Agency Considers Journalists a Threat, Vacuums Up Their Emails

#3
After all the stuff the Guardian published, and which has directly resulted in a massive reduction in Europe-wide security from terrorism, it's easy to see why.

The Paris terror attacks probably would have been stopped if Snowden/Guardian never happened or was better controlled in how the specific details were announced. UK's spy agency has more powers than the NSA can dream of; and is largely responsible for protecting not just the UK, but the rest of western Europe and even some of the USA.

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post #3

After all the stuff the Guardian published, and which has directly resulted in a massive reduction in Europe-wide security from terrorism, it's easy to see why. The Paris terror attacks probably would have been stopped if Snowden/Guardian never happened or was better controlled in how the specific details were announced. UK's spy agency has more powers than the NSA can dream of; and is largely responsible for protect…

Can you be more specific about what massive reductions in Europe-wide security resulted from the publications, and how they presumably would have stopped the Charlie Hebdo attacks?

Re: British Spy Agency Considers Journalists a Threat, Vacuums Up Their Emails

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To me, this all smacks of weakness. If they were not breaking the law (at least in spirit), they wouldn't fear journalists. If they were capable of preventing or at least showing the danger of the acts they claim to fight, they wouldn't fear journalists.

But because the danger is perhaps not as immediate or as severe as the political narrative might suggest, or because their intrusions into our privacy are not as necessary as they claim, their only true threat are people who can expose such.

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What can you expect from a country that still has a functioning monarchy. There's a reason America revolted against England, you can see many of the reasons listed in our Bill of Rights.

So the NSA isn't doing this also? They're totally above board?

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post #7
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What can you expect from a country that still has a functioning monarchy. There's a reason America revolted against England, you can see many of the reasons listed in our Bill of Rights.

So the NSA isn't doing this also? They're totally above board?

If they're doing it at least they have to hide it from congress since it would be illegal unlike in the UK.

Re: British Spy Agency Considers Journalists a Threat, Vacuums Up Their Emails

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There's been global rise in violence and legal pursuit of journalists. But as many of the issues outside the US get attention I've compiled material related to the US:

* The Obama Administration issued a secret surveillance operation against the Associated Press to break their sources [1]

* Journalists like Ibrahim Jassam [2], Laura Poitras [3], Glenn Greenwald [4], James Risen [5], many others are being prosecuted and persecuted

* States are heavily partnered with news media (e.g. Ken Dilanian [6], Judith Miller and Michael Gordon [7])

* Domestic news is manipulated by the state to achieve geopolitical goals (Zarqawi Psyop [8], Fallujah Psyop [9]) - this has recently been anonymously removed from Wikipedia: now [10] before [11]

* The state uses legal pressure to delay and suppress stories (e.g. Risen's NSA story 2004-05 [12])

* On key political issues controversial journalists are pulled (e.g. Ayman Mohyeldin [13])

* Journalism exclusion zones are used to corral media for purposes other than their safety - even at home where exclusion zones were used to stop coverage in Ferguson [14]

* Sources to journalists have had their lives and their families subjugated to death threats [15]

* The state reserves the right to imitate news media outlets [16]

* There is both historical [17] and current [18] use of international cables to manipulate the press

* The White House has been caught using fake journalists during press releases [19]

* The state has been caught buying coverage from journalists (e.g. Armstrong Williams [20], Gallagher and McManus [21])

* The US government has injected (hundreds of) unattributed fake news stories into local news channels by the US through the Office of Broadcasting Services on political issues [22]

* There is current legislation that would legally compel journalists to disclose their sources [23]

* The Army was caught in a scandal where they were sending fake letters from an imaginary soldier to media organizations [24]

* Hero stories are drummed up, attested to, and propelled by state officials when guests of the media (e.g. Jessica Lynch [25])

* Anti-propaganda law have been relaxed this year [26]

* Media outlets have been given evidence from coerced testimony on the grounds it is actionable, even when it is known to have been fabricated [27] [28]

* Propaganda intended for foreigners makes it to American audiences [29] and this has been used on purpose to circumvent anti-propaganda law [30]

* The government has a history of manipulating media and through the Cold War had over 800 American news networks and personel [31] (names you may know such as Austin Goodrich [32] and Frank Kearns [33])

* The United States hires [34] contractors [35] and has software [36] to manipulate social media [37]

* Agencies publish documents compelled of them by law at inconvenient times to discourage large press coverage [38]

* It is also true that the the now president and CEO of the Public Broadcasting Service Patricia Harrison testified before Congress that President Bush considered Office of Broadcasting Services (1/4 billion dollar) state sponsored propaganda powerful strategic tools for swaying public opinion [39]

Re: British Spy Agency Considers Journalists a Threat, Vacuums Up Their Emails

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There's been global rise in violence and legal pursuit of journalists. But as many of the issues outside the US get attention I've compiled material related to the US: * The Obama Administration issued a secret surveillance operation against the Associated Press to break their sources [1] * Journalists like Ibrahim Jassam [2], Laura Poitras [3], Glenn Greenwald [4], James Risen [5], many others are being prosecuted a…

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Department_of_Justice_inve...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Jassam

[3] http://www.salon.com/2012/04/08/u_s_filmmaker_repeatedly_det...

[4] http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/18/glenn-greenwald...

[5] http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/28/us/case-of-james-risen-tim...

[6a] https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/04/former-l-times...

[6b] http://www.democracynow.org/2014/9/5/headlines#959

[7] http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/may/29/iraq.usa1

[8] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04...

[9] http://www.globalresearch.ca/psyops-media-warfare-and-the-we...

[10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallujah_during_the_Iraq_War

[11] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fallujah_during_t...

[12] http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/14/nyt-nsa-leak...

[13] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayman_Mohyeldin#2014_Israel.E2....

[14] http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ferguson-no-fly-zone-...

[15] http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/government-elections...

[16] https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/07/14/manipulating-o...

[17] http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20...

[18] http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2006/03/heroes-error?pag...

[19] http://www.salon.com/2005/02/23/more_gannon/

[20] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armstrong_Williams#.22No_Child_...

[21] http://www.thenation.com/article/bushs-war-press

[22] http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/13/politics/13covert.html?pag...

[23] http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrishamby/government-says-federal-a...

[24] https://web.archive.org/web/20031025141143/http://www.channe...

[25] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Lynch#Controversy_rega...

[26] http://thelibertybeat.com/anti-propaganda-law-repealed-state...

[27] http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/09/politics/09intel.html

[28] http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/06/politics/06intel.ready.htm...

[29] http://articles.latimes.com/2006/jan/27/world/fg-infowar27

[30] http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2006/03/heroes-error?pag...

[31] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

[32] http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/10/us/austin-goodrich-spy-who...

[33] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Kearns

[34] http://boingboing.net/2011/02/18/hbgarys-high-volume.html

[35] http://www.marayamedia.com/company.php

[36] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice

[37] http://minerva.dtic.mil/doc/samplewp-Lieberman.pdf

[38] http://aibrt.org/downloads/EPSTEIN&ROBERTSON_2014-Manipulati...

[39] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Broadcasting_Act_of_196...

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