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BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

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Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

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Post by xnull2guest »

EGreg wrote: post #38
xnull2guest wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No one should force any company anything. It's a company's choice to do native apps, web apps, or whatever they like. I disagree with this for a couple reasons. (The first sentence is easy to disagree with but I won't engage it as a strawman and will assume you mean it in a very narrow sense). The reason is that I don't believe that it's purely a company's choice to create native apps, web apps, or whatever they li…

As soon as someone decentralizes social networking the way bitcoin decentralized money, all those proprietary silos will be disrupted. And we have built the system to do it. http://platform.qbix.com

I wasn't able to tell from the faq how qbix tries to achieve what is claimed in the comments. I would be interested to hear about that.

Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

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Post by commentzorro »

Seems like the game of blog "telephone" has gotten a bit out of hand here. The original letter to the senate seems to say that _services_ should be available to all platforms. (Still a dubious argument though.)

By the time we hit TechCrunch it's being worded as, "... if a company makes an app for iOS and Android, they must also make a version for BlackBerry and all other operating systems."

Good link bait though.

Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

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Post by duncan_bayne »

bactatin wrote: post #13
duncan_bayne wrote: post #4

Well, he's right in one sense: legislatively mandated net neutrality is actually no less rights-violating than forcing app developers to support Blackberry.

Wrong.

Care to elaborate?

Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

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Post by dogma1138 »

Considering that BB OS10 has an Android Run Time which runs the vast majority of Android Apps whats the point?

I've recently purchased a BlackBerry Passport and i absolutely love the device, I have a OnePlus, Nexus 6, and a MotoG as well and the square screen format and the keyboard just take it home for me.

As far as internet browsing, reading, and light content creation goes the Passport is by far the best phone out there atm. It's also one of the first devices in which BB decided to put not only good but virtually top of the line hardware so you are getting a quad core 801 snapdragon, with 3GB of RAM and 32GB + SD card.

I would wish that the BB market place would actually get some love it looks like the Android market from 2008-9 where 99% of the apps are scam, malware, overpriced shortcut apps, and bible and point me to mecca apps.

Even the "built for BB" apps on the market tend to run worse than their Android versions running in the Android Runtime Environment. And since even Google Services can be ported to BB OS10 there isn't even an issue with apps that require Google Account/Play Services any more.

Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

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Post by jbob2000 »

Canada wrote: post #22

I've done it, and hearing that makes me want to delete it. BB developer tools are horrible. BB ignores developer questions on their own forums, even though they appear to have about as much traffic as my blog: Almost none. Also, the 90s called. It wants it's developer portal back. It actually asks if you want to restrict your app to certain carriers, (please, tell me more about neutrality!) and for export license num…

> It actually asks if you want to restrict your app to certain carriers,

Google play allows you to do this too.

Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

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Post by Canada »

jbob2000 wrote: post #45
Canada wrote: post #22

I've done it, and hearing that makes me want to delete it. BB developer tools are horrible. BB ignores developer questions on their own forums, even though they appear to have about as much traffic as my blog: Almost none. Also, the 90s called. It wants it's developer portal back. It actually asks if you want to restrict your app to certain carriers, (please, tell me more about neutrality!) and for export license num…

> It actually asks if you want to restrict your app to certain carriers, Google play allows you to do this too.

I didn't notice that. Google's developer console works so well I don't spend much time looking at anything but crash reports and install stats.

Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

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Post by declan »

walterbell wrote: post #35
Canada wrote: post #22

I've done it, and hearing that makes me want to delete it. BB developer tools are horrible. BB ignores developer questions on their own forums, even though they appear to have about as much traffic as my blog: Almost none. Also, the 90s called. It wants it's developer portal back. It actually asks if you want to restrict your app to certain carriers, (please, tell me more about neutrality!) and for export license num…

An "API neutrality" proposal would make more sense. E.g. Apple wouldn't need to develop iMessage clients for non-Apple platforms, but they would not be able to block non-Apple platform client apps (developed by anyone) from connecting to the API. See HTTP, IMAP, Exchange, NFS, Windows SMB, etc.

Apple develops iMessage, and gives it away for free on iOS, as a way to make its own platforms more attractive.

Let's say this hypothetical "API neutrality" proposal were to go through -- note the actual letter from Blackberry's CEO never mentioned the phrase "API"[1] -- then Apple might simply stop developing iMessage. Unless your hypothetical law forces them to make the API available and keep it available indefinitely to all comers, effectively subsidizing their competitors out of their own pocket.

[1] http://blogs.blackberry.com/2015/01/blackberry-net-neutralit...

Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

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Post by declan »

xnull2guest wrote: post #25
ekianjo wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What they're getting at is that services should leverage open technologies so that nobody's platform gets shut out No one should force any company anything. It's a company's choice to do native apps, web apps, or whatever they like. They are probably missing some part of the market by not developing for some platforms or not having mobile versions of their apps - that's their problem, and it makes them ripe for com…

> No one should force any company anything. It's a company's choice to do native apps, web apps, or whatever they like. I disagree with this for a couple reasons. (The first sentence is easy to disagree with but I won't engage it as a strawman and will assume you mean it in a very narrow sense). The reason is that I don't believe that it's purely a company's choice to create native apps, web apps, or whatever they li…

>Blackberry is asking for recognition that they can not compete in their own industry.

If Blackberry merely wanted "recognition that they can not compete," they could put out a press release.

Anytime you write a letter to Congress that includes the phrase "must be mandated" -- as Blackberry's CEO did -- it's abundantly clear you're asking a new law.

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