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Re: Restart: Microsoft in the age of Satya Nadella

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Post by aceperry » Thu, Jan 22, 2015, 10:59 AM UTC

ZanyProgrammer wrote: post #5

fidotron wrote: post #2

This "Microsoft Missed Mobile" meme should die in a fire. They didn't so much miss it as fail to deliver anything anyone wanted in the space, except for their most extreme fanboys, for about 15 years. Bill Gates famously went absolutely nuts about Symbian and considered them a giant threat to the company. It really didn't help. On the strength of today Nadella hasn't reined in the Windows group anything like enough.…

Aren't we massively premature in our estimation of Windows 10?

Maybe, but it wouldn't take much to improve on Windows 8.

Re: Restart: Microsoft in the age of Satya Nadella

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Post by aceperry » Thu, Jan 22, 2015, 11:00 AM UTC

CrazyCatDog wrote: post #30

Don't be confused, Win10 will be sold as a service: "free in the first year" will make it very difficult to re-win-d back to win7 or win8 once uncle Nadella starts threatening to brick your pc lest you start paying. New vision: Two paid subscriptions (O365 + Win10), accessed from every desk and every home...and (unfortunately) 1 of every 10M phones

If MS threatens something like that, you'll probably see a large scale migration to desktop linux.

Re: Restart: Microsoft in the age of Satya Nadella

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Post by afsina » Thu, Jan 22, 2015, 12:46 PM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #38

afsina wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot the Android phone manufacturer extortion.

Using patents to extort money is hardly what I would describe as "embracing Open Source".

We all know how MS approached those manufacturers. With big gun lawyers and strict NDAs for not disclosing the Patents in question. I believe those patents are BS, no matter if Patent system accepts it. On my eyes it makes MS a terrible company because to me it is stealing money form all users pockets.

Re: Restart: Microsoft in the age of Satya Nadella

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Post by afsina » Thu, Jan 22, 2015, 12:50 PM UTC

stevecalifornia wrote: post #21

staunch wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Real artists ship. Microsoft obviously has plenty of good ideas but their execution is always lacking. I see nothing different about what Nadella is doing. If anything he seems more inclined towards flashy bs and talk over shipping. Microsoft: > "You could be one of the first to experience Skype Translator. All you need to do is sign up to be a preview user and we will keep you posted on what comes next." http://www.…

This has been in Windows Phone 8 since it came out.

Voice to Voice translation for multiple languages? Citation needed.

Re: Restart: Microsoft in the age of Satya Nadella

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Post by ttrashh » Thu, Jan 22, 2015, 3:01 PM UTC

afsina wrote: post #44

stevecalifornia wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has been in Windows Phone 8 since it came out.

Voice to Voice translation for multiple languages? Citation needed.

He is saying that real time text translation has been there. Microsoft has the translator app that will display the translated text as an "augmented" overlay when you hold the camera up.

Re: Restart: Microsoft in the age of Satya Nadella

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Post by stevecalifornia » Fri, Jan 23, 2015, 3:44 AM UTC

afsina wrote: post #44

stevecalifornia wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has been in Windows Phone 8 since it came out.

Voice to Voice translation for multiple languages? Citation needed.

It also does voice to voice. I speak into my phone, it types it out, translates it to whatever language then speaks it in that language. It's a travelling app that they don't seem to advertise. It also does the augmented reality translation someone else posted about.