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Lenovo replaced my HDD under warranty then sent me a bill

#1
As the title says Lenovo recently replaced my hard drive on my thinkpad that is under warranty. Three weeks later I start getting emails telling me I have to return my old one.

If I need to return my HDD that's fine... But why did no one ever mention this to me when I was making the warranty claim??

This is a big problem because after receiving my replacement HDD I tossed my old one. I call Lenovo to try and tell them this and see what the options are. They tell me that Lenovo will just send me a bill. I tell them I'm not paying a bill for something under warranty, and let's face it I never agreed to purchase anything from them in the first place. Finally the person tells me I can "escalate" this issue and speak to a supervisor... but it won't help because this is their policy and now I have to buy a new HDD from them.

So I tell them I want to go ahead and escalate this.

He tells me ok... oh wait there isn't a supervisor here I have to call back next week.

I call back next week and again no supervisor, but they promise they will report this issue and he will CALL ME BACK.

Of course it never happens.. and as time goes on Lenovo sends me a bill.

Now when I try to call back and speak to someone they just tell me they can't even help me now and try to transfer me elsewhere. When I get transferred it's no surprise that this department doesn't know what's going on and can't help either.

And when I call them back and give them my claim number... they just hang up on me again, and again.

I'm not paying for a HDD covered under warranty Lenovo. If I need to return it I'll decommision the new one and send it back to you in pieces.. and most likely foregoe the new X1 Carbon I was really wanting.

Anyone else had problems like this? Anyone have advice? Trying to communicate with Lenovo is a dead end.

Re: Lenovo replaced my HDD under warranty then sent me a bill

#2
I'd be tempted to ignore it.

But if you want to talk to them you'll need to talk to their finance department, the details /should/ be on the invoice. If not, wait until the red reminders - they will have contact details for the accounts dept on them

Customer support which is likely outsourced, as many companies outsource their call centre and warranty fulfilment will have exactly zero tools to cancel invoices.

Re: Lenovo replaced my HDD under warranty then sent me a bill

#3
Is it possible to contact Lenovo through some other channel? Support forums, email, chat? Maybe they are not run by the same people.

With a bit of luck they also feel that phone support is a stupid outsourced division and will immediately realize what has happened.

Re: Lenovo replaced my HDD under warranty then sent me a bill

#4
Normal customer support would explicitly tell that they don't want to spend money to have the broken item returned, and normal customers would ask for instructions (typically volunteering to return the item, to avoid suggesting a scam). So, how could such a misunderstanding happen? Is it your fault?

Re: Lenovo replaced my HDD under warranty then sent me a bill

#5
You need to contact Lenovo in your country (US?) directly, and inform them of the issue and misunderstanding.

That said, your warranty may require you to provide them with defective hardware. You may be on the hook whether you realized it or not. They may eat it, but unlikely.

Re: Lenovo replaced my HDD under warranty then sent me a bill

#8

Normal customer support would explicitly tell that they don't want to spend money to have the broken item returned, and normal customers would ask for instructions (typically volunteering to return the item, to avoid suggesting a scam). So, how could such a misunderstanding happen? Is it your fault?

There was a slip on the bottom of the box with a return label so it's most likely my fault for not noticing it. I only saw it 3 weeks after they sent it and I started getting the emails from them. And by then it was too late. Still I would have really appreciated someone telling me about this policy from the start.

Either way, regardless of who is at fault I just want to actually talk to someone and resolve the issue. I've been on the phone for 1 hour this morning and someone is actually listening and trying to help so that's a plus. :)

Re: Lenovo replaced my HDD under warranty then sent me a bill

#9
It's pretty standard practice that warranty parts have to be returned.

http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/ht101058

Keep Your Drive

Under the Lenovo Limited Warranty, when Lenovo replaces a defective part of Your product, the defective part becomes the property of Lenovo. Under Keep Your Drive, You may retain a defective hard drive that is replaced under the Lenovo Limited Warranty. This Service applies to the original hard drive in Your product and any replacement hard drive provided for Your product under the Lenovo Limited Warranty. You must provide Lenovo with the serial number of each hard drive which You retain under this Service and execute any document provided by Lenovo acknowledging Your retention of the hard drive. This Service does not apply to any hard drive provided by Lenovo for a product not purchased by You

Re: Lenovo replaced my HDD under warranty then sent me a bill

#10
I have had absolutely horrid support from Lenovo. I love their machines, but pray that I never have to have any interaction with the company. The story follows...

I got an X1 a few years back while in grad school in another state. My experience with the company started out poor when their fraud prevention made it nearly impossible to buy the machine. Making sure several forms of identification referenced my location and where the product was shipping (why does shipping have ANYTHING to do with purchasing!?), I ended up being unable to ship it to my desk at school, but did get the product to my apartment at least. All of this made the order several weeks later than I had anticipated, not that I had things to get done or anything. I know this doesn't have to do with product support, but it's foreshadowing.

Half a year ago, I spilled some water on my laptop. Disaster. In fact, my wife had done the same thing a week earlier to her Lenovo as well. Both keyboards were dead; we had to use externals until we could get the issue resolved. Funny, because the X1 has little holes through the keyboard to drain as though it is at least somewhat resistant to such things. It isn't.

I called the support line and actually felt like I had gotten pretty far until the guy on the other end quoted me something like $400 to repair the machines. What? I just need keyboards, that's not going to happen. Turns out full service repair out of warranty is crazy from them, I should call the "parts department" at one of three numbers he gave me and order the specific parts for manual repair. Okay, now I'm getting somewhere. I wanted just the parts to begin with (and thought I had asked for that). Of course, figuring out which of the random phone numbers was correct was another labor of pain.

We called the parts department for two months. They're open for exactly eight hours a day and the wait is no less than an hour in our experience. Pain. Eventually, we got through and received the keyboards for around $50/ea. I'm not new to repairing laptops, I just wanted the exact parts that belong in the computers at a reasonable price.

My X1 is several years old now and still chugging along. Someday its battery won't be sufficient and I don't know if the X1 Carbon will tempt me or not. As a Linux user, Lenovo is the safest bet I know of for laptops so I'm fully expecting that I'll deal with all of this again someday.

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