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BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

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Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

#11

Post by bactatin »

verelo wrote: post #7

If the BB platform wasn't a hunk of junk I would probably agree, it is creating an unfair playing field. The reality is, the blackberry dev tools are not equal, they are terrible and the reason we do not build for BB is not because we're evil and do not like them, its because they do not provide the tools to run a profitable business on their sub-par platform. To be fair, the iOS and Android platforms are far from pe…

Nothing you said is relevant in a free country. No one mandates software, it's called make your own.

Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

#12

Post by shard972 »

duncan_bayne wrote: post #4

Well, he's right in one sense: legislatively mandated net neutrality is actually no less rights-violating than forcing app developers to support Blackberry.

Your wrong, net neutrality is about HUMAN RIGHTS. All packet should be EQUAL, it's about EQUALITY.

You should watch out, you are on the wrong side of history.

Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

#14

Post by shard972 »

bactatin wrote: post #11
verelo wrote: post #7

If the BB platform wasn't a hunk of junk I would probably agree, it is creating an unfair playing field. The reality is, the blackberry dev tools are not equal, they are terrible and the reason we do not build for BB is not because we're evil and do not like them, its because they do not provide the tools to run a profitable business on their sub-par platform. To be fair, the iOS and Android platforms are far from pe…

Nothing you said is relevant in a free country. No one mandates software, it's called make your own.

But that leads to platform inequality. Wake up, it's 2015, stop being regressive.

Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

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Post by mdm_ »

For some context, read BlackBerry COO Marty Beard's blog post[1] from a few weeks ago. I don't think Chen or anyone else at BlackBerry thinks the government should compel anyone to write apps for their specific platform, in fact that's the very mindset they're criticizing. What they're getting at is that services should leverage open technologies so that nobody's platform gets shut out, which I believe is also a core value of Mozilla and Firefox OS, for example. It's not just a matter of BlackBerry vs. the world; how many apps are iOS-first or iOS-exclusive, despite the market domination of Android? I think Chen and Beard are advocating for the tearing down of the "walled garden" world of mobile platforms.

I use a BlackBerry Passport as my daily driver, and although I have both native apps and sideloaded Android apps via Amazon App Store and Snap, a lot of my most regularly used items are mobile websites. Many companies have excellent mobile sites, you can save them as bookmarks to your homescreen, they pull in the favicon and look just like apps. You don't have to install updates for them or worry that they'll stop supporting your OS version or particular hardware, and a lot of times they're a better experience than the corresponding native (or sideloaded) apps.

[1] http://blogs.blackberry.com/2015/01/surprising-winner-of-htm...

Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

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Post by ekianjo »

mdm_ wrote: post #15

For some context, read BlackBerry COO Marty Beard's blog post[1] from a few weeks ago. I don't think Chen or anyone else at BlackBerry thinks the government should compel anyone to write apps for their specific platform, in fact that's the very mindset they're criticizing. What they're getting at is that services should leverage open technologies so that nobody's platform gets shut out, which I believe is also a core…

> What they're getting at is that services should leverage open technologies so that nobody's platform gets shut out

No one should force any company anything. It's a company's choice to do native apps, web apps, or whatever they like. They are probably missing some part of the market by not developing for some platforms or not having mobile versions of their apps - that's their problem, and it makes them ripe for competition sooner or later.

And it's also very hypocritical for a company like Blackberry to ask for this kind of things after largely benefiting from being in position of strength for many years and doing NOTHING to drive multiplatforms support. Now that they are at the bottom, they "require" their platform to be considered for all apps. That's laughable at best.

Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

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Post by mdm_ »

ekianjo wrote: post #16
mdm_ wrote: post #15

For some context, read BlackBerry COO Marty Beard's blog post[1] from a few weeks ago. I don't think Chen or anyone else at BlackBerry thinks the government should compel anyone to write apps for their specific platform, in fact that's the very mindset they're criticizing. What they're getting at is that services should leverage open technologies so that nobody's platform gets shut out, which I believe is also a core…

> What they're getting at is that services should leverage open technologies so that nobody's platform gets shut out No one should force any company anything. It's a company's choice to do native apps, web apps, or whatever they like. They are probably missing some part of the market by not developing for some platforms or not having mobile versions of their apps - that's their problem, and it makes them ripe for com…

There's been significant (to put it mildly) turnover at BlackBerry since it was in a position of strength, so IMHO it's not exactly fair to call the company hypocritical. I should hope all the new people have some new ideas and maybe a different philosophy.

Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

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Post by gress »

mdm_ wrote: post #15

For some context, read BlackBerry COO Marty Beard's blog post[1] from a few weeks ago. I don't think Chen or anyone else at BlackBerry thinks the government should compel anyone to write apps for their specific platform, in fact that's the very mindset they're criticizing. What they're getting at is that services should leverage open technologies so that nobody's platform gets shut out, which I believe is also a core…

Android doesn't dominate the market for apps, in either app revenue or download numbers. The market domination of android is actually the domination of many separate markets.

Re: BlackBerry CEO Wants FCC to Make Developing BlackBerry Apps Mandatory

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Post by omgitstom »

X-combinator wrote: post #3

Plainly "Not-going-to-happen." BlackBerry should pay developers to write apps for them. Not force hardworking Programmers to develop apps for them.

This is exactly what microsoft was doing, and it didn't work for them. My few friends with windows phone say the apps were great when they launched (developed with the $100K+ microsoft handout), but now are not maintained and buggy and crash.
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