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Emacs Is My New Window Manager
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#142everything but a good text editor... :P
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#143I used to be a big Emacs user, especially in my postgraduate days and would love to go back to the run everything in Emacs days but the world has changed. These days I only use it for editing text.
The many problem is that Emacs hasn't really kept up with the times. It's bloated in the wrong ways with too many default packages installed. Asynchronous processes and integrating WebKit to allow binary buffers (PDF, Images, SVG) would solve a lot of issues but I can't see it happening without a fork given the stubbornness of RMS. The recent spat over AST in gcc (which would again improve Emacs) doesn't increase the hope that things will change anytime soon.
And that the sad thing. The idea of Emacs, a scriptable, extensible environment is timeless and should not be lost to the past.
(BTW I would pay money for an Emacs fork and modernization project)
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
The nice thing about Emacs is how much it's open to modification. There are compatibility modes to make it work like other editors (eg. "evil mode" to make it work more like Vi, "cua mode" to use "normal" key combos instead of having to learn Emacs's, etc.). There are often a bunch of alternative ways to do things, which have their own pros and cons, so if something seems frustrating, it pays to Google around a littl…
M-x shell is so useful for searching for text strings in outputs. (when grep alone will not do) like all things emacs/ terminal its a little awkward when trying to use the control keys (up arrow, ^r) and they get captured by emacs and not the shell.
have you tried multi-term (http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MultiTerm) it is much nicer than the canonical shell that is available...
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#145I used to be a big Emacs user, especially in my postgraduate days and would love to go back to the run everything in Emacs days but the world has changed. These days I only use it for editing text. The many problem is that Emacs hasn't really kept up with the times. It's bloated in the wrong ways with too many default packages installed. Asynchronous processes and integrating WebKit to allow binary buffers (PDF, Imag…
> (BTW I would pay money for an Emacs fork and modernization project)[1] https://www.dnalounge.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEmacs
(for some background: http://www.jwz.org/doc/lemacs.html
Jamie Zawinski later went to work at Netscape where he was responsible for the Unix version, and named the Mozilla open-source project that you have heard of. He cashed out of Netscape and bought the DNA Lounge nightclub.
On his blog, he likes to point out software inanities with the caption "This is why I sell beer now")
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
M-x shell is so useful for searching for text strings in outputs. (when grep alone will not do) like all things emacs/ terminal its a little awkward when trying to use the control keys (up arrow, ^r) and they get captured by emacs and not the shell.
M-p is the replacement for up arrow
Which I bind to f6 for convenience.
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#147I used to be a big Emacs user, especially in my postgraduate days and would love to go back to the run everything in Emacs days but the world has changed. These days I only use it for editing text. The many problem is that Emacs hasn't really kept up with the times. It's bloated in the wrong ways with too many default packages installed. Asynchronous processes and integrating WebKit to allow binary buffers (PDF, Imag…
> (BTW I would pay money for an Emacs fork and modernization project) Maybe go talk to Jamie [1] and see if he's willing to give it another go [2]? [1] https://www.dnalounge.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEmacs (for some background: http://www.jwz.org/doc/lemacs.html Jamie Zawinski later went to work at Netscape where he was responsible for the Unix version, and named the Mozilla open-source project that you…
He also sells me my pizza.
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#148Can emacs soft-wrap at a set column size without doing so in the middle of a word? When I last tried to get into it I couldn't get it to do this, and that put me off my meal.
Yeah, if you set the buffer-local variable "word-wrap". As noted in the docs for that variable, you probably just want to use "visual-line-mode", as that sets it and also adjusts some navigation keybindings to account for the soft wrapping. Works pretty well, overall.
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#149Xmonad, Emacs, a terminal and Chrome pretty much do the same thing for me on Ubuntu desktop, possibly with a little less pain. Mostly mouse free operation, and easy resizing, swapping etc. If you want to learn Emacs, just jump in head first. Try and use it like a native. Just for kicks I'm trying to do the same with vi by forcing myself to use it for anything vaguely sysadmin related.
I generally like that setup better as well, but imo one of the advantages of the emacs approach is that there is more of a culture of providing extensive API hooks for scripting. If you run an RSS reader inside emacs, it's expected that it'll expose many/most of its operations via elisp function entry points, so what's going on in the reader is "transparent" in a sense: scripts can query the list of feeds, the items…
Thank you for this comment. I spent years thinking emacs was cool, but didn't quite get the push toward using emacs for everything but the kitchen sink until now. Time to take another look at it, I suppose.
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#150I used to be a big Emacs user, especially in my postgraduate days and would love to go back to the run everything in Emacs days but the world has changed. These days I only use it for editing text. The many problem is that Emacs hasn't really kept up with the times. It's bloated in the wrong ways with too many default packages installed. Asynchronous processes and integrating WebKit to allow binary buffers (PDF, Imag…
Can't you integrate webkit with emacs-webkit?