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Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year

#51

Can someone explain why it would only be free for the first year? To spur adoption? It just seems like more trouble than it's worth to start charging people for it sometime in the future.

A forcing function to get people to move to it quickly. Microsoft traditionally has had trouble in getting people to adopt new versions of their software (IE6 ring a bell? XP still has an 18% market share worldwide, despite being 13 years old). This will hopefully make people adopt it quicker.

Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year

#52
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It's not the price of Windows that was keeping people from adopting Windows 8. It's the irrelevancy and the fact that corporations don't see the ROI. The time it would take to upgrade their company isn't worth the gains, which are minimal. Unless Windows 10 proves to be a massive improvement in performance or usability, I suspect it's uptake will be just as anemic, free or not.

I haven't used Windows in 10+ years, so I've got some questions for those who are smarter than me on the subject of Windows: Does it come with package management yet? Can I easily avoid DLL hell these days? Can I add my own local repository and use it to maintain a fleet of workstations, making sure they always have the same configuration no matter what? Is it easily possible to connect to a Windows machine and admin…

>Can I easily avoid DLL hell these days?

DLL hell was replaced by >20GB WinSxS directory. Every version of every single DLL, regardless if you ever used or will use one. Stored forever, with no usage stats, no mechanism of trimming, no archive option for never used ones. Introduced just in time to fill ~$40 worth of SSD with data that will NEVER EVER be read again.

Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the smallprint from the page on their current Windows 10 promo site[1]: > It is our intent that most of these devices will qualify, but some hardware/software requirements apply and feature availability may vary by device. Devices must be connected to the internet and have Windows Update enabled. ISP fees may apply. Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 Update required. Some editions are excluded: Windows 7 Enterprise…

No RT! That's harsh, but the truth is dropping RT like a bad habit is the best thing they could do. Sucks for anyone who bought a copy on a cheap tablet, though.

No one is dropping RT. RT is being moved INTO your desktop and taking it over. Just look at the list of services running on your win8.whatever.

Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year

#55

Can someone explain why it would only be free for the first year? To spur adoption? It just seems like more trouble than it's worth to start charging people for it sometime in the future.

Ever since Amazon Web Services nothing has ever been the same. Maybe one day we'll all go back to actually "owning" the software we buy instead of just timed licenses and logins.

You haven't owned software for a while, long before anyone every thought of AWS.

Remember XP having to be re-authorized if you changed too much hardware? It was before then too.

Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we'll be keeping it current for the supported lifetime for the device. My question is: what exactly is the "supported lifetime for the device?" Is this "supported lifetime" defined by the manufacturer's warranty? The original OS date of installation? Something else?

You're thinking too hard. It means if you install Windows 10 during the free period, it will be as if you bought a normal Windows license.

Do you have a source for this, or is it just your assumption?

"Supported lifetime for the device" does not necessarily mean "supported lifetime for Windows 10." Although your interpretation may be correct, they have (intentionally or otherwise) used ambiguous wording in how they describe this.

Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year

#57
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I wonder if they'll let the (vast number of) pirated versions of Windows 7/8 participate in the free upgrade program. It'd be an interesting change to the dynamic of Windows.

I doubt it, but anyway if you pirated your Windows 7, you can pirate your Windows 10 too...

Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year

#58
post #2

It's not the price of Windows that was keeping people from adopting Windows 8. It's the irrelevancy and the fact that corporations don't see the ROI. The time it would take to upgrade their company isn't worth the gains, which are minimal. Unless Windows 10 proves to be a massive improvement in performance or usability, I suspect it's uptake will be just as anemic, free or not.

The price is what was keeping me from upgrading my personal PC running Windows 7.

Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year

#59
I don't think this free upgrade is much of a shock.

People who bought a Windows XP machine in 2001 enjoyed 6+ years of free OS upgrades from Microsoft. Likewise, people who buy a Mac enjoy 5+ years of free OS upgrades from Apple.

If Microsoft wants to shift into a yearly release cycle and they don't give away the updates to their existing customers then they're essentially charging for service packs, which won't fly.

Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year

#60
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Take a snapshot of the VM and reset it to that point when the free trial period expires. They have you do this with their official VM's for IE testing.

But this isn't a free trial period. My understanding is that if you upgrade in the first year then you have a fully licensed version of Windows for the lifetime of the "device". But what is the lifetime of a virtual machine?

Until you delete the VM. The VM is a software device. [EDIT] Or the virtualization software stops being able to run your VM.
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