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11.5 + 15 != 25
Did this reply contribute anything to the conversation, other than display your strong grasp of both addition and "well actually..."?
The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan
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Re: The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
8chan can't be mentioned because it's a competitor I assume? But what about Gamergate, why is it taboo to discuss it?
My guess is because 4chan was being used as an organizing nexus for a bunch of people widely seen as abusive and misogynist, and he just no longer wanted the headache. Years ago I worked on bianca.com (early community site; founded 1994, Webby 1997, closed in the dot-com bust), which had a similar unfettered-free-speech aspect to it. I feel a lot of sympathy here. Committing to publishing everything is one of those p…
8chan will probably last much longer than 4chan precisely because Fredrick refuses to make those judgement calls about what is and isn't acceptable. He doesn't need to bear a heavy conscience about what kind of speech he is allowing, he just follows the law to the letter and lets people do their thing.
I leave you all with a fantastic speech the late Christopher Hitchens made about the freedom of speech and why there is no freedom of speech unless you extend that freedom towards people you disagree with, even the ones you find completely abhorrent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIyBZNGH0TY&feature=youtu.be...
Re: The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan
#83Just a little backstory for ya'll. Somewhere in late 2014 there was a thread on the /int/ board joking about how moot was apparently having a relationship with a known "SJW" as they call it. Coincidentally, /pol/, the most ass annihilating board for politically correct types was ruined after the relationship leak, chaptas were removed and keywords were replaced with the political opposites. After this, the /v/ board…
Re: The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan
#84I realize Chris is tired of dealing with the headaches of managing 4chan. But if he has effectively outsourced management of the site, why not continue to hold the title of president or whatever? I wonder how much of his cachet he gives up by doing this (even though he still owns the property). Given his influence on the internet due to 4chan, moot can probably raise money for his next project with relative ease. Can…
moot is never capitalized. I guess we'll see but I mainly read it as he was stepping down as an administrator.
Neither is reddit, but the press doesn't seem to care and a lot of users don't realize it either.
Protip: Never make your brand "always lowercase" because it just won't work.
Re: The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Er, /baphomet is not "a doxxing board." Or, rather, it's not just a doxxing board. It's also a swatting board, and swatting is illegal in the US. https://storify.com/a_man_in_black/baphomet You are also 100% incorrect about "only legitimate stance." Hotwheels needs to be clear about what his guidelines are; as long as it's clear what rules the communities operate under, and as long as people are free to decide whethe…
I'd be willing to bet dollars to donuts that actual calls to swat people have been deleted on that board. But, I can't say for sure because I don't hang out there, and the events of GamerGate have me applying a shakerfull of salt to any negative press surrounding 8chan. And as far as "incorrect", that is your opinion and it is your own, I have a differing one. I like the idea of a site where the admin has assured tha…
FWIW, I agree strongly that unclear rules are bad. You should know what parameters you're operating under. I think there's some space for judgement calls, because it's really hard to write rules that cover all possible cases, but I also think it's significantly better to make those exceptions rather than SOP.
Sincere thanks for taking the time to explain. I will not burden you further with having to edit your posts to reply to me, and certainly feel free to drop me an email if you'd like.
Re: The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan
#86> 2,838 Terabytes per month I didn't realize it was so big. Does anyone have comparison points with other services such as Facebook or Reddit?
Re: The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan
#87This is not a surprising development, there has been speculation that Poole has been readying the site for sale in the past few months. He has taken action to sanitize the site by suppressing discussion of Gamergate and 8chan (mention of either was a bannable offense), and more recently a purge of /pol/ (that board had been a haven for conspiracy theorists and neo-nazis). The theory had been that he was making the bo…
I think GG and 8chan are the least of 4chan's problems if they were trying to sell. Constant loli, gore, and racist threads would be a far bigger turn off to a potential buyer. GG and 8chan threads were just banned because of his personal beliefs.
Re: The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is he a horrible person? Because he was sick of participating on an imageboard where admins arbitrarily decide what does/doesn't get discussed, sometimes based on their personal beliefs?
Yes, that is the most likely reason for someone to think that he is a horrible person. Seriously, if you are interested in an answer you should just ask the question without answering it yourself with your strawman fantasy.
But I'm guessing blindly believing rampantly biased media surrounding the subject is more your style, right?
Re: The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nobody actually knows. People have been banned for violations of the stated rules on each board despite not actually violating them, people have been left alone for flagrant violations of said rules. Board features like names, macros, and so on are toggled on and off more or less on a whim. To say that 4chan's enforcement is inconsistent would be an understatement. But, the chaos is a feature, not a bug. Something to…
>it's basically Reddit, but for image boards I think reddit has shown us quite conclusively that the "create-your-own-niche" paradigm simply leads to a series of over-specialized echo chambers with perpetually rising levels of groupthink and self-reinforcing, self-congratulatory posting. In other words I think reddit's architecture amplifies shitposting rather than mitigating it.
Re: The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
My guess is because 4chan was being used as an organizing nexus for a bunch of people widely seen as abusive and misogynist, and he just no longer wanted the headache. Years ago I worked on bianca.com (early community site; founded 1994, Webby 1997, closed in the dot-com bust), which had a similar unfettered-free-speech aspect to it. I feel a lot of sympathy here. Committing to publishing everything is one of those p…
That's fair, but then he shouldn't have been surprised when his site started hemorrhaging users who were there entirely for the freedom of speech they enjoyed. 8chan will probably last much longer than 4chan precisely because Fredrick refuses to make those judgement calls about what is and isn't acceptable. He doesn't need to bear a heavy conscience about what kind of speech he is allowing, he just follows the law to…
Comparisons to Hitchens are similarly misleading; there is a large difference between enabling vs not stopping.
While I support eg the KKK or gamergate jerks' right to talk and organize, I'm damn well not helping pay for it.