What is the best way to actually learn emacs? I'm a vim guy who is curious enough to switch but I'd rather just hack the introductory process and get to the fun bits.
Emacs Is My New Window Manager
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Re: Emacs Is My New Window Manager
#22My impression has been that emacs is a poor window manager. Granted, I am not incredibly skilled with emacs but even after some weeks I was still confused by the way emacs opened up new windows or changed existing windows when you've clicked on something (for instance, in dired or org-mode's agenda) I ended up to open everything in a new frame and left the management of these frames to awesomewm.
It's pretty bare. The thing is, anyone can build a new management library (the buffer-window tree is accessible), there are some extensions, like tabs, too, but it seems most emacsers are ok with the way things are. Things are moving a little smoother in its dev though (migration to git, windows can be sized per-pixel ...), so maybe now is the time for pushing some new ideas.
Re: Emacs Is My New Window Manager
#23StumpWM is strongly inspired by emacs. It uses a similar window handling style. https://stumpwm.github.io/
Also, it's written in Common Lisp, which - apart from giving it points of awesomeness - means you can easily plug Emacs into it via SLIME/SWANK.
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#24No bad for a first try, but my goal is
cat /proc/cmdline initrd=/install/initrd.gz quiet init=/usr/bin/emacs
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm the same as you. I am Windows/Mac user and I spent a bit of time trying to configure emacs across all my machines. I think it's fair to say that it wasn't designed to be configured cross platform, which is a shame. When I can be bothered I will have to create .emacs files for each platform that I use
I disagree. I have been using the same init.el across Windows and Mac for several years. Hardly anything needs to be tailored but you can inspect the system-type variable if it is really necessary.
How do you handle package management? I just couldn't get things to go my way. Either it worked on Windows or Mac, not both.
What flavour of Emacs are you using on Windows?
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#27What is the best way to actually learn emacs? I'm a vim guy who is curious enough to switch but I'd rather just hack the introductory process and get to the fun bits.
I read the built in help and the recommended parts didn't take too long (30 - 90 minutes somewhere I guess).
Used the GUI version (the menus are usueful for reference when I started) but learned the new copy / paste keys instead of using Windows standard and generally try to pick up every shortcut.
I've tried a few "distros" and found one I liked. I also spent a little (too much?) time on implementing org-mode, mostly according to http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html
Wouldn't use it for window manager though for roughly the same reasons I wouldn't use the tractor to go shopping with the family.
(Background: I've used vim for configuration for the last few years and ST2/3 + Netbeans for developement, never touched emacs before last fall except by accident.)
Re: Emacs Is My New Window Manager
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm the same as you. I am Windows/Mac user and I spent a bit of time trying to configure emacs across all my machines. I think it's fair to say that it wasn't designed to be configured cross platform, which is a shame. When I can be bothered I will have to create .emacs files for each platform that I use
I disagree. I have been using the same init.el across Windows and Mac for several years. Hardly anything needs to be tailored but you can inspect the system-type variable if it is really necessary.
I use the same `.emacs` on both Windows and Linux. I put some Windows-specific stuff in a separate file that I load only when `(string-match "nt" (symbol-name system-type))`.
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They have evil-mode for that: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Evil
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#30What is the best way to actually learn emacs? I'm a vim guy who is curious enough to switch but I'd rather just hack the introductory process and get to the fun bits.
I was a heavy Vim user, and what worked for me was forcing myself to use emacs for a project. Other people use evil-mode, but I kept the standard key bindings. Use the help as much as you can, and learn about functions like C-h k and C-h m. I stayed with emacs for org-mode, for buffer management, and then for projectile, magit, flycheck, mu4e, etc etc...