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Re: UBlock defaults to blocking Google Analytics tracking

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bhouston wrote: post #6
mtmail wrote: post #3

If you read https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/#philosophy then that's not surprising at all. Disconnect.me also blocks Google Analytics.

Blocking standard analytics on small websites who do not server ads is being dick. Now I do not know who is using my website. I can not optimize it for longer user sessions, I can not figure out which are the most popular pages, I can not record client-side errors, I can not track caching and page load time. Basically this screws over those want to create good website experiences. Blinding us in this way is pretty us…

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Re: UBlock defaults to blocking Google Analytics tracking

#52

Post by Animats »

bhouston wrote: post #6
mtmail wrote: post #3

If you read https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/#philosophy then that's not surprising at all. Disconnect.me also blocks Google Analytics.

Blocking standard analytics on small websites who do not server ads is being dick. Now I do not know who is using my website. I can not optimize it for longer user sessions, I can not figure out which are the most popular pages, I can not record client-side errors, I can not track caching and page load time. Basically this screws over those want to create good website experiences. Blinding us in this way is pretty us…

Sure you can. All you need to manage your site's performance is in your server's log file. There are many free tools for analyzing those logs. If you're getting client-side errors, run a site analyzer to check your site for dead links and such.

You don't need Google for any of this.

Re: UBlock defaults to blocking Google Analytics tracking

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Post by bigbugbag »

So does "no google analytics"[1]. It seems I'll soon be able to replace several extension by µBlock which is a good news.

I've long wished firefox would actually block ads and trackers by default, but it seems they'd rather make money instead.

[1] : https://github.com/erikvold/no-ga

Re: UBlock defaults to blocking Google Analytics tracking

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Post by Karunamon »

nfoz wrote: post #15
bhouston wrote: post #2

More here: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/blob/e6707fe8b155cc92da1cb... This screws my efforts to try to optimize my site for increased traffic and to work towards longer user sessions. This hurts my website.

Google's spying hurts your users. To manage your webserver, use your server logs. If you really think you need more information than those convey, you could get some self-hosted javascript to assist with that. You need nothing else.

As mentioned upthread, even a self hosted solution like piwik is blocked by default.

So great to see what we're sacrificing upon the dubious privacy altar...

Re: UBlock defaults to blocking Google Analytics tracking

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Post by Karunamon »

teamhappy wrote: post #34
conphill wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. I understand that people have issues with being retargeted by ad platforms and hate seeing the same ad follow them around, but I don't really seem any downside to users being tracked by 3rd party platforms like Google Analytics. Platforms like GA, don't track first party information and anonymize who you are with a randomly generated ID. This is the only thing that makes your visit unique from the rest. I do…

> How do you expect businesses to get insights into what features users like or dislike in their product? Collect the data you need yourself. If you don't want to do that (it's really easy) then the data can't be that useful/important to you. Another way would be to, you know, ask your users. What bugs me is that people seem to think it's okay to send my data to another company (usually many, in all kinds of differen…

The reason "nobody does that" is because it's a stupid question that only a tiny minority of people actually care about.

It's like the EU cookie law, the net result of which is that a handful of websites are required to post obnoxious warnings.

Great. Your solution means even more obnoxious warnings internet wide. "Hey, the person running this website wants to see what its users are doing. Allow Y/N?" This is a future I literally cannot wait to see.

Re: UBlock defaults to blocking Google Analytics tracking

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Post by bigbugbag »

bhouston wrote: post #6
mtmail wrote: post #3

If you read https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/#philosophy then that's not surprising at all. Disconnect.me also blocks Google Analytics.

Blocking standard analytics on small websites who do not server ads is being dick. Now I do not know who is using my website. I can not optimize it for longer user sessions, I can not figure out which are the most popular pages, I can not record client-side errors, I can not track caching and page load time. Basically this screws over those want to create good website experiences. Blinding us in this way is pretty us…

I've used ad blockers since ad started to appears on the web because ads are annoying sure but the real reason is that it is a severe privacy intrusion. This is exactly why I installed µBlock as soon as I heard about it, because contrary to ad blockers it states clearly that it is about privacy and shows that the author actually gets it.

I could not care less about stupid justification for spying on me and sending all this data about me to google, either use piwik or learn to apply analytics to your web server logs.

Anyways I was already invisible to you because I have js disabled by default, and a few extension dedicated to blocking trackers and google spefically, with fanboy's lists to block trackers.

Re: UBlock defaults to blocking Google Analytics tracking

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Post by bigbugbag »

rudolf0 wrote: post #21
eli wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It block self-hosted Piwik by default too!

That seems pretty unreasonable. I can see providing an option for it, but blocking it by default is bordering on paranoid.

Well, take it to the easyprivacy guys, µBlock only has their list enabled by default.

Re: UBlock defaults to blocking Google Analytics tracking

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Post by beedogs »

bhouston wrote: post #6
mtmail wrote: post #3

If you read https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/#philosophy then that's not surprising at all. Disconnect.me also blocks Google Analytics.

Blocking standard analytics on small websites who do not server ads is being dick. Now I do not know who is using my website. I can not optimize it for longer user sessions, I can not figure out which are the most popular pages, I can not record client-side errors, I can not track caching and page load time. Basically this screws over those want to create good website experiences. Blinding us in this way is pretty us…

> I can not optimize it for longer user sessions, I can not figure out which are the most popular pages, I can not record client-side errors, I can not track caching and page load time.

Sure you can. You can do all of those things still.

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