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Re: µBlock for Firefox

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Post by learnstats2 » Tue, Jan 20, 2015, 10:37 AM UTC

Beltiras wrote: post #27

colechristensen wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where's the law that says I have to view web content as it's creators intend? You send me a stream of data, I decide what to do with it, what parts to render, what parts to ignore.

There's no law. I work at a newspaper. We are digitally aware and head towards a digital distribution. That means infrastructural changes and that costs money. Those advertisers pay the bills. They provide the means for us to reach you. Subscription models are (currently) not enough. I'm not trying to guilt anyone into anything but this will be a an interesting field to watch in the coming years. How will journalism…

With respect, this is great for me.

I would like to read articles that haven't been self-censored to keep potential advertisers happy.

For me, journalism needs to figure out other funding models to regain some semblance of integrity.

Re: µBlock for Firefox

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Post by ddorian43 » Tue, Jan 20, 2015, 10:38 AM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #24

colechristensen wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where's the law that says I have to view web content as it's creators intend? You send me a stream of data, I decide what to do with it, what parts to render, what parts to ignore.

Hehe. Surely some DRM friendly folks dreamed about a personal computer platform where you would be forced to go through commercials as with television/video before accessing content.

This episode from black-mirror:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2089049/?ref_=ttep_ep2

You have to pay to skip ads.

Re: µBlock for Firefox

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Post by jamespo » Tue, Jan 20, 2015, 10:43 AM UTC

learnstats2 wrote: post #31

Beltiras wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no law. I work at a newspaper. We are digitally aware and head towards a digital distribution. That means infrastructural changes and that costs money. Those advertisers pay the bills. They provide the means for us to reach you. Subscription models are (currently) not enough. I'm not trying to guilt anyone into anything but this will be a an interesting field to watch in the coming years. How will journalism…

With respect, this is great for me. I would like to read articles that haven't been self-censored to keep potential advertisers happy. For me, journalism needs to figure out other funding models to regain some semblance of integrity.

More Buzzfeed & more advertorials.

Re: µBlock for Firefox

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Post by loosescrews » Tue, Jan 20, 2015, 10:44 AM UTC

anon4 wrote: post #25

barrkel wrote: post #11

Hopefully at some point someone will do something similar for element-level blocking. A lot of my custom ABP rules are actually blocking dynamic HTML slide-ins, overlays, animated carousels, etc.

If you just want to remove elements from the page, rather than block connections to third-party servers, I recommend Stylish. You can just write custom CSS rules and make those elements display:none. Alternatively, write a user script that does the same.

ABP prevents unwanted crap from being downloaded.

Re: µBlock for Firefox

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Post by cryofan » Tue, Jan 20, 2015, 10:47 AM UTC

ps4fanboy wrote: post #18

rplnt wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if sites could make it so with EULA or something. Could they say that viewing an article without ads violates something? Or using this service (for example reddit) without ads? Is it legally possible?

EULA's dont usually hold up in court because contracts normally require consideration, most of the time you cant implicitly enter into a contract.

um...wrong

Re: µBlock for Firefox

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Post by agumonkey » Tue, Jan 20, 2015, 10:48 AM UTC

ddorian43 wrote: post #32

agumonkey wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hehe. Surely some DRM friendly folks dreamed about a personal computer platform where you would be forced to go through commercials as with television/video before accessing content.

This episode from black-mirror: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2089049/?ref_=ttep_ep2 You have to pay to skip ads.

Brilliant, the ad is the product.

Re: µBlock for Firefox

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Post by aen0 » Tue, Jan 20, 2015, 10:52 AM UTC

whizzkid wrote: post #5

I have been using µBlock for 3 weeks now.(previously adblock plus). There is one irritating thing it has that almost makes me go back to adblock again. It is often blocking the false positives. So if developer has named one of their assets file with social media names like "twitter/facebook/etc", it blocks the file right away. Since it does not have custom configuration options for each site, you can either disable µ…

You can fined tune (almost like uMatrix) the blocking in the latest version by enabling "Advanced user feature".

Re: µBlock for Firefox

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Post by chii » Tue, Jan 20, 2015, 10:54 AM UTC

ps4fanboy wrote: post #18

rplnt wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if sites could make it so with EULA or something. Could they say that viewing an article without ads violates something? Or using this service (for example reddit) without ads? Is it legally possible?

EULA's dont usually hold up in court because contracts normally require consideration, most of the time you cant implicitly enter into a contract.

the consideration is the content of the website. EULA haven't been tested in court, sure, but i think against the average person, they won't be able to do battle against a large corporation should they decide to enforce it.

Re: µBlock for Firefox

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Post by aleem » Tue, Jan 20, 2015, 10:54 AM UTC

whizzkid wrote: post #5

I have been using µBlock for 3 weeks now.(previously adblock plus). There is one irritating thing it has that almost makes me go back to adblock again. It is often blocking the false positives. So if developer has named one of their assets file with social media names like "twitter/facebook/etc", it blocks the file right away. Since it does not have custom configuration options for each site, you can either disable µ…

Similarly, it blocks all FB, Twitter buttons across all websites and there seems to be no way to white list those across all websites. Am I missing something?

Re: µBlock for Firefox

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Post by chii » Tue, Jan 20, 2015, 10:56 AM UTC

Beltiras wrote: post #27

colechristensen wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where's the law that says I have to view web content as it's creators intend? You send me a stream of data, I decide what to do with it, what parts to render, what parts to ignore.

There's no law. I work at a newspaper. We are digitally aware and head towards a digital distribution. That means infrastructural changes and that costs money. Those advertisers pay the bills. They provide the means for us to reach you. Subscription models are (currently) not enough. I'm not trying to guilt anyone into anything but this will be a an interesting field to watch in the coming years. How will journalism…

> How will journalism fund itself and maintain some semblance of integrity?

i suspect journalists can do that by asking for a larger subscription. If society truly values the work of journalists, instead of it being a conduit for advertising, then it will be paid accordingly. If not, then, yes, it's a shame, but it really means that nobody values the work of a true journalist (especially investigative journalism), and it will die out. But that's reality, as sad as it would be if it were to be true.