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To Be More Creative, Cheer Up

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Re: To Be More Creative, Cheer Up

#34

TLDR; drink .

And with this added element, we got the missing link between "To Be More Creative, Cheer Up" and "Feeling Sad Makes Us More Creative".

On one hand, drinking will cheer you up. On the other hand, it will also make you feel miserable.

Add to that the fact that boredom is one of the top reasons to drink and we have a link with "How Boredom Can Boost Creativity".

To quote Bukowski: "That's the problem with drinking, I thought, as I poured myself a drink. If something bad happens you drink in an attempt to forget; if something good happens you drink in order to celebrate; and if nothing happens you drink to make something happen."

Re: To Be More Creative, Cheer Up

#35
Didn't reads the article yet, but it seems ironic that the front page currently contains three articles :

"Feeling sad makes us more creative", "How boredom can boost creativity", and this one, "To be more create cheer up".

Re: To Be More Creative, Cheer Up

#36
post #32

Also on Hacker News home page: "Feeling Sad Makes Us More Creative" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8915681 Well, which is it?

Maybe: Extremes of feeling make us more creative? (just a guess, mind)

But then we also have "How boredom can boost creativity". I wouldn't say boredom is an extreme feeling.

Re: To Be More Creative, Cheer Up

#38
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I have to say, I can't help thinking the author doesn't know anything about Hemingway or Picasso. Both are very famous examples of how depression can be creative. You can name many others like Virginia Woolf or Emily Dickenson. I think both depression and exuberance can be creative, albeit creative in different ways. Exuberance is very good for, as the author notes, divergent thinking. You simply have the ability to…

As someone with clinical depression and who is also a writer: this is purest self-fulfilling, self-indulgent bullshit, and exactly the kind that kept me bound to my own illness for over a decade.

Depression does fuck all either way for creativity, but what it is very good at doing is making sure you're afraid to be rid of it lest you lose that, all the while actually serving to make every creative act an uphill battle you will probably lose. Getting out from under that rock produced the finest and most productive creative phase of my life.

The myth of the tortured artist is one of the ugliest in modern culture. Go look at the lifestyle indulging that produces, and tell me that's a good route to creativity with a straight face. Because I will grant it one concession: guilt and self-recrimination can indeed be a pretty powerful quality control measure, but it is also a short jaunt from there to self-destruction and even suicide. Hemingway drank himself to death. Woolf drowned herself. I'm pretty sure you could lose count inventorying the lives of musicians who've spiraled down that hole.

As far as I'm concerned, this romanticism for depression is no less destructive and unhelpful than "pro-ana" boards; it is an enabling fiction for the mentally ill, and nothing more.

Re: To Be More Creative, Cheer Up

#39
>> After all, creativity may be the key to Homo sapiens’ success.

Unlikely. Creativity in this context is only useful when it's about problem solving. Otherwise it's about art at most. And problem solving may or may not be creative. Point - problem is gone, everyone can move on.

Re: To Be More Creative, Cheer Up

#40

In other news: (same HN page) Feeling Sad Makes Us More Creative (wired.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8915681

Also, being bored makes us more creative: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8915371

From those results we could make one of three conclusions:

* Any sufficiently strong emotional response inspires creativity

* Different people respond to different emotional queues and the studies had samples of people biased in different directions

* It is all a load of bunkum.

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