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Republican net neutrality bill would gut FCC’s authority over broadband

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Re: Republican net neutrality bill would gut FCC’s authority over broadband

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No, you actually dont. All ISPs operate on oversubscribing each available meg. If they did what you are proposing, the only options would be 1 mb up/down stream, 3 MB up/down speed, and 5 mb up/down speed. Many ISPs have 100-10,000x over subscriptions per meg

I think asymmetric links and oversubscribed link are apples and oranges.

how so?

Re: Republican net neutrality bill would gut FCC’s authority over broadband

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It would be great to get things like this out of the hands of arbitrary-law-makers (aka regulators).

As opposed to ... what, for-sale-lawmakers ?

Sure. At least I can hold them accountable for selling themselves. Instead we get organizations that are making laws without accountability. I mean, Obama appointed a guy who was formerly a lobbyist for the cable and wireless industry as the head of the FCC! Fox meet hen house.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Wheeler

Re: Republican net neutrality bill would gut FCC’s authority over broadband

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I think the idea here is that a user could prioritize their Netflix traffic over their Dropbox traffic. It would be great actually if they offered QoS configuration to end users.

That would not work. Most users don't care/don't know about about QoS, nor they want to learn. There was/is a ton of research on user-driven QoS, micro-payments, per-flow reservations, etc. etc. The result: there is no nice or simple scheme to a) expose QoS knobs to users b) align incentives of ISPS/ContentProviders/Users for micropayments, c) affordable equipment that can do per-user crediting across the Internet.

Can you link to any of this?

Re: Republican net neutrality bill would gut FCC’s authority over broadband

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As opposed to ... what, for-sale-lawmakers ?

Sure. At least I can hold them accountable for selling themselves. Instead we get organizations that are making laws without accountability. I mean, Obama appointed a guy who was formerly a lobbyist for the cable and wireless industry as the head of the FCC! Fox meet hen house. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Wheeler

I'm very well aware of the revolving door between regulatory agencies and the industries they're tasked with regulating.

That said, you do realize that the Tom Wheeler whose appointment is your go-to example of regulatory capture is the guy who appears to want to classify ISPs under Title II, don't you? That is, a former lobbyist for the telecoms is proposing a regulation that's counter to their interests, so they're buying a law to bar him, and the regulatory agency he works for, from doing that. Which is the corrupt side, again?

Also, hold them accountable how? With an incumbency rate > 90%, and congresscritters being all but necessarily for sale in order to finance their campaigns, how exactly does the farce of democracy and republicanism (note: small-r) that we have in the US punish the bad actors?

Re: Republican net neutrality bill would gut FCC’s authority over broadband

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> captured Congressmen The FCC actually seems more captured than congress. The head of the FCC is a former lobbyist for ISPs and Telcos.

> The head of the FCC is a former lobbyist for ISPs and Telcos. And what has he said recently about network neutrality? http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/08/us-usa-internet-ne... Maybe the usual ideas about "regulatory capture" aren't as accurate as they seem.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/08/us-usa-internet-ne...

Downvoting this story doesn't make it untrue.

Re: Republican net neutrality bill would gut FCC’s authority over broadband

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That would not work. Most users don't care/don't know about about QoS, nor they want to learn. There was/is a ton of research on user-driven QoS, micro-payments, per-flow reservations, etc. etc. The result: there is no nice or simple scheme to a) expose QoS knobs to users b) align incentives of ISPS/ContentProviders/Users for micropayments, c) affordable equipment that can do per-user crediting across the Internet.

Can you link to any of this?

On which specific part?

E.g. networking research has ton of these kind of papers: http://conferences.sigcomm.org/hotnets/2006/estan06achieving...

They never go beyond modeling and simulation because, if you read such works, you can see that it is extremely hard to adopt such schemes.

Even between ISPs and content providers they endup with just 2-3 major pricing Tiers, because the added benefit if accounting more tiers is diminishing: http://conferences.sigcomm.org/sigcomm/2011/papers/sigcomm/p...

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