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SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time”

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Re: SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time”

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not saying he can do no wrong, but I'm just flabbergasted that there are still so many armchair critics and naysayers when it comes to Elon Musk. That's why you're a fanboy. Nobody is perfect, and Elon Musk likes to make fun of the competition quite publicly when they have an issue, while ignoring his project's own failures. It is hard to even discuss the man on HN as anything that could even be taken as critic…

Well, Elon Musk said talking about hyperloop was like shooting his own foot. It was a premature idea. But the interesting part is some(more than some) people are actually trying trying to come up with a real world implementations of hyperloop and so far their verdict is 'it's doable' and they are working on it. And these people are engineers from reputed companies around the world. I don't particularly like the conce…

"Premature idea" is probably better phrased as "not feasible on technical grounds." Even tlb said it has huge problems. The steel expands in summer due to heat. Where does it go? Roads can expand using those interlocking teeth things, but hyperloop has to remain a closed system.

Oh well. Everyone should dream once in awhile.

EDIT: So... is this incorrect?

Re: SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time”

#93
post #8

Looks like it did not come down vertically but at a slant, but they got the positioning better than I thought they would on this try. One thing to note is that it is from now on officially a very bad idea to piss off Elon Musk if he knows where you live, being able to hit stuff with this kind of accuracy using rockets from space is normally enough to get you placed on the 'axis of evil' list. Incredible precision.

Ran out of hydraulic fluid

Re: SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time”

#94

This was "close?"

Put a .5" x .5" cardboard square on a wooden post. Grab a pushpin. Start counting paces away from the post. Stop when you're about four city blocks away. Start running full speed towards the post. Hurl the pin at the post as hard as you can when you're three city blocks away. Pin glances off of one corner of the cardboard square. Crowd yells, "epic fail!"

In contrast, from the HN-featured article about finding the Beagle2 probe on Mars:

MRO's data confirms that Beagle landed just 5km from the centre of its targeted touchdown zone.

5km, and it was considered a bulls-eye accurate landing.

Re: SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time”

#95
Great video. Exploding rockets and failed attempts give plenty to talk about and get excited about.

But Spacex have already launched a rocket and landed it in a similar way as they are doing here.

Ok, so they are flying it somewhere else, GPS'ing, and landing it somewhere else.

I enjoyed the video but ... just seems like a small progression in the grand scheme of things.

Cool, but no cigar. This time.

Re: SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time”

#96

Sorry for sounding like such a fanboy, but during my 40 years on this earth, I have never been more impressed with a human being. The guy is pushing the envelope on perhaps the most difficult engineering/technological endeavor ever attempted by a private company - and he's making it look cool and futuristic. As if that wasn't enough, he's doing this in two different industries simultaneously. I'm not saying he can do…

> I'm not saying he can do no wrong, but I'm just flabbergasted that there are still so many armchair critics and naysayers when it comes to Elon Musk. That's why you're a fanboy. Nobody is perfect, and Elon Musk likes to make fun of the competition quite publicly when they have an issue, while ignoring his project's own failures. It is hard to even discuss the man on HN as anything that could even be taken as critic…

It would seem that the hyperloop is just an invented charade developed for use as a carrot to manipulate states into dropping their laws against direct sales from car manufacturers. That would explain why Texas is being courted now. They lost out on the gigafactory and may be more willing to capitulate to get a piece of other Musk projects.

Re: SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time”

#97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not saying he can do no wrong, but I'm just flabbergasted that there are still so many armchair critics and naysayers when it comes to Elon Musk. That's why you're a fanboy. Nobody is perfect, and Elon Musk likes to make fun of the competition quite publicly when they have an issue, while ignoring his project's own failures. It is hard to even discuss the man on HN as anything that could even be taken as critic…

Amen. It's also kind of insulting how much HN has bought into this "Great Man" theory of engineering and development. Sure, Elon Musk is a smart guy and seems to be a good leader who sets bold goals, but the real geniuses that make SpaceX possible are the brilliant engineers working there--who you've never heard of. Watching the way HN reacts to SpaceX, in contrast to say, NASA, or the ESA makes me think those organi…

You described every organization or company ever. Jobs didn't personally write the code for iOS but he created the vision and made it happen.

Re: SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time”

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, Elon Musk said talking about hyperloop was like shooting his own foot. It was a premature idea. But the interesting part is some(more than some) people are actually trying trying to come up with a real world implementations of hyperloop and so far their verdict is 'it's doable' and they are working on it. And these people are engineers from reputed companies around the world. I don't particularly like the conce…

"Premature idea" is probably better phrased as "not feasible on technical grounds." Even tlb said it has huge problems. The steel expands in summer due to heat. Where does it go? Roads can expand using those interlocking teeth things, but hyperloop has to remain a closed system. Oh well. Everyone should dream once in awhile. EDIT: So... is this incorrect?

"Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert Einstein

Re: SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time”

#99
post #78

I'm annoyed by this trend of having posts with 0 context or analysis on the top of the frontpage. Yesterday we had a link to some bitcoin chart showing a sudden drop in price (why? I still don't know). A few days ago it was a gif of a flowchart for some brainfuck interpreter (I had to dig into the comments to find the link to the source code). And now... Vine?! The problem with that kind of submissions (images, short…

This story is a few days old, so I guess the upvoters figured most people were already aware of the context. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8895397

Also, HN's obsession with linking to "original sources" means you often get a raw feed instead of commentary.

Re: SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time”

#100
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amen. It's also kind of insulting how much HN has bought into this "Great Man" theory of engineering and development. Sure, Elon Musk is a smart guy and seems to be a good leader who sets bold goals, but the real geniuses that make SpaceX possible are the brilliant engineers working there--who you've never heard of. Watching the way HN reacts to SpaceX, in contrast to say, NASA, or the ESA makes me think those organi…

You described every organization or company ever. Jobs didn't personally write the code for iOS but he created the vision and made it happen.

Yeah, and I also think there's way too much Jobs-worship in the technology industry.
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