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Re: Fasting triggers stem cell regeneration of damaged, old immune system (2014)

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Post by hueving » Mon, Jan 12, 2015, 4:14 AM UTC

halflings wrote: post #173

axotty wrote: post #149

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Disclaimer: This is my personal belief, it seems it seems to offended some passionate dissenters. I understand, I've been there before too. God is often depicted as moody and chronically concerned with what we think of him. I think that's a ridiculous projection of our own human insecurities. If a creator like God existed, he would be billions of orders of magnitude more intelligent than us. Why would he care if we w…

I looked hard and can't find the exact verse, but there's a specific verse in the Quran that basically says the same thing: If all of humanity gathered to believe, it wouldn't add Him anything. And if all of humanity gathered to disbelieve, it wouldn't remove anything from Him. People still have this latent idea of God as an old bearded guy (or any variation of that myth) "interacting" with the world (via spells and…

Then why do people think killing people that depict the prophet will do something?

Re: Fasting triggers stem cell regeneration of damaged, old immune system (2014)

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Post by joshdance » Fri, Jan 16, 2015, 2:47 AM UTC

jqm wrote: post #98

disputin wrote: post #68

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Are mormons not christians?

Mormons claim Christianity and espouse some Christian principals (i.e. blood atonement for sins of the world), although many of their beliefs (i.e. God is an evolved man and through adherence to Mormon doctrine men can become Gods after death) put them well outside the realm of what is considered mainstream Christianity. I'm not sure these additional beliefs necessarily disqualify them as "Christian" though as they d…

I agree with you. Many groups would claim another group isn't Christian, especially as the definition of "Christian" has shifted and changed throughout the years. A good article outlining some main points is here - https://www.lds.org/topics/christians?lang=eng. (for the record I am a Mormon, and a Christian. :)

Re: Fasting triggers stem cell regeneration of damaged, old immune system (2014)

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Post by shawndumas » Tue, Jan 20, 2015, 10:50 PM UTC

hueving wrote: post #190

shawndumas wrote: post #141

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a valid argument is valid apart from the truth of its premises [1]. I am perfectly happy to agree that an argument's construction is formally valid and still deny it's conclusion. all sound arguments are valid but not all valid arguments are sound. so I ask; in what way is my argument invalid? ----- [1]: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Validity#Validity_and_soundne...

>so I ask; in what way is my argument invalid? I never said it was. I said it had a bad assumption, which makes the whole thing entirely pointless and self-serving. Entering a debate where you make your arguments using the form "Assume I am right about the thing we are debating. Now here are all of the logical conclusions of that." is completely worthless because nobody cares about the logical conclusions when the ar…

The original post was, "If God exists, I doubt he cares if we believe in him or not. I like to believe he would not be that insecure."

My response was addressing the part about insecurity. You are objecting to the original poster's thought experiment -- "If God exists" -- which I was allowing for the sake of argument.

So you are objecting to my continuation: Is this what you are intending to do?

Re: Fasting triggers stem cell regeneration of damaged, old immune system (2014)

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Post by anglican1549 » Sat, Jan 24, 2015, 7:38 PM UTC

hueving wrote: post #189

anglican1549 wrote: post #128

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Your epistemology and categories are already flawed, as if there's an analogy between a thing (like a horse) and the Ground of Being (classically called "God"). God in classical theism is not a "thing" among things. If you think classical theism posits deity the same way people posit horses, of course you'll want "evidence" that is empirical. So wouldn't it be helpful, for the sake of the thought experiment proposed…

>God in classical theism is not a "thing" among things. Neither is an invisible horse. These all fall under the category of things that there is no physical evidence for. >So wouldn't it be helpful, for the sake of the thought experiment proposed by shawndumas, to at least see where his reasoning leads? No, because his entire premise is based on the existence of something that follows no logic or physical laws. Somet…

But an invisible horse is referencing a thing simply without the accidents of visibility, but a finite thing nevertheless.

You're still trapped in a category Christians (or any traditional Theists) don't believe about God. We're asserting X, you're attacking Y.