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They are not shiny but a direct translation is OK in Italian and it could be OK in the other languages of the post (Chinese, Arabic and Russian).
Fortunately I work in Scala, so it's very easy to have an "embedded DSL" that's ordinary, first-class code but not much harder for non-technical translators to read or write than the .po format; we can write helpers for grammatical case or numbers or similar. But having the full power of a programming languages there means that when you hit a case you haven't thought of (and you will), you can fall back to just an if/else.
Personally, I usually don't even notice small mistakes like "1 directories" (or similar mistakes in my native language). Sometimes I will see the correct version somewhere and think "Oh, nice that they thought of that" but I definitely don't expect it.
Are the possible returns of having a "perfect" translation really high enough to justify investing in a much more complex system? I am sure translators who can code functions instead of just putting values into an Excel table will come at quite a premium as well...
Funny how Slovene seems to tick all the complications checkboxes :D We have 4 grammatical numbers (singular, dual, plural for 3 and 4, plural for 5 and above), they repeat at mod 100 (so 101 is singular, 102 dual,…), it's an inflectional language with 3 grammatical genders, sentence should take a different form depending on whether the user is male or female,…
I was just trying to think of how it would work out in Polish.... directory is "katalog" in Polish, and it would be: 1 katalog 2 katalogi 3 katalogi 4 katalogi 5 katalogów 6 katalogów ....(it doesn't change for any number greater than 5) But if you wanted to say "X files were found in Y directories" then you would have to say: ....1 katalogu ....2 katalogach ....3 katalogach ....1000 katalogów (for 1001 even I am not…
And thus is solved the mystery all us Slavic speakers have such good English. Especially on the online. Because nobody had the guts to localize to our languages.
If they did localize to our languages "Omg this looks weird and smells off", we all cried. And switched our interfaces to English. Admit it, you did this in High School or even Middle School because the translation just didn't make sense.
And so all of us who are now in a position to localize these interfaces don't because it seems silly and pointless.
We come full circle. Younglings after us use computers in English because no good localization exists.
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I was just trying to think of how it would work out in Polish.... directory is "katalog" in Polish, and it would be: 1 katalog 2 katalogi 3 katalogi 4 katalogi 5 katalogów 6 katalogów ....(it doesn't change for any number greater than 5) But if you wanted to say "X files were found in Y directories" then you would have to say: ....1 katalogu ....2 katalogach ....3 katalogach ....1000 katalogów (for 1001 even I am not…
1 imenik 2 imenika 3 imeniki 4 imeniki 5 imenikov 6 imenikov … 101 imenik 102 imenika 103 imeniki … 201 imenik … 1001 imenik … Slavic languages are f*d up :D
I think this has to do with vocabulary registers as well. We've learned to use English words for computer things. Using Slovene translations just feels weird unless they're a bastardisation of the English word. Similar to how English uses French words for foods because cuisine was a thing of the elite and they didn't eat pig, they ate porc.
Slightly OT, mi favourite localization error was in Ubuntu when they had that nice netbook interface (that later would become Unity). The network icon label was "Rojo" in the Spanish localization, that is the word for "red" color. What? Well, if you translate "Net" to Spanish you get "Red"; and if you translate that again (by mistake), you get "Rojo". There you are :)
That's an error only an amateur translator would make. Guess who makes free software translations... A professional translator makes sure to check the context of the translation, it doesn't go blindly translating sentences and words without context.
I took some screenshots because I really liked the interface, but none of them show the bug because I usually stick to en_GB and the problem was spotted in my wife's netbook (she's Spanish teacher and likes to have the OS interface in Spanish to amuse the kids).
Just in case people are wondering about the horror story: use ngettext which is a function in the gettext library.
Indeed, this is a solved problem. Use ngettext, see its page for all different language variations (even the Slovenian four different forms) https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/Plural...
Funny how Slovene seems to tick all the complications checkboxes :D We have 4 grammatical numbers (singular, dual, plural for 3 and 4, plural for 5 and above), they repeat at mod 100 (so 101 is singular, 102 dual,…), it's an inflectional language with 3 grammatical genders, sentence should take a different form depending on whether the user is male or female,…